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Since others covered most of the action bases, I'll try to consider an alternate point of view, the devil's advocate position...

Why does Webadict have so many actions and get so much night information?

Like, yes, his actions seem to mesh with what others claimed (from what I can tell from the chartsaand my own reads). What I don't quite like is that those actions may not be what he claims they are, eg painting targets. I remember D1 someone mentioned poison effects or suspicion of a poisoner...

There is also another option. Who among us are Dragons? Proper fire-breathing Dragons. (The answer is me. TolyK's also a dragon, but  do they breath fire, or do they hide underwater?)

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Pirates chasing after other denizens of the sea, ar?

I'm not a dragon. I can become one but you'd all know about it - public action and all that.

And I don't breathe fire nor water, nor do I think I would in that case.

(Hahah, me hearty Web sees the chain o' action a second before I post about it meself. I guess ninjas really do beat pirates...)

Ha!

TolyK, aye, it did strike me as mighty convenient that Boatswain TricMagic has the very same role that matches the flavour o' the match, perhaps he submitted it to match the game, savvy? And perhaps he wasn't the only one... Did you ever spill yer special information on dragons?

Could be, or could be an incomplete role name (e.g., "Puff the Magic Dragon" or "The SpaceX Dragon Capsule").

I don't think I really spilled much, except that dragon dragons seem to get stronger if they're the last alive, which Webadict seemed to confirm.

Didn't get to read anything yet, but lol @ NQT.

I performed my action; Toony, did you get the choice? I wonder what exact information you got...

Ok, latest thing was NQT pushing a bandwagon on Juice, who just said it was normal NQT town stuff. I don't get it. Why the hell is everyone bandwagoning so heavily D1? Or trying to at least.

Web, Tric basically said they were the same alignment. Web is doing odd things, apparently to not die D1/N1. Claimed a lot of info that does not seem to be contradicted, including first. Tric similarly. So far, I think they're same alignment and likely to be town ish.

NQT is a bot who has done analysis graphs and other things I enjoyed, but this last interaction with Juice seems like making a distacing alibi. I'd bite with Juicebox for now (who else will hop on? I dare you... I don't think they'll be eliminated but idk the cases against the rest lol. Ppe: well I'll keep vote for now. NQT would be alt vote).

Jim is just doing Jim things, just solid and can't really say much about alignment. Good that he's not buying most of these wagons. Isn't taking easy bait, so I guess slightly town lean?

Unless someone suggests otherwise I'll choose one of Tric, Webadict or Max to ask a philosophical question this night. Why those three? Most likely to accept, given my feeling they have multiple smaller abilities and/or dragon adjacent.

Ppe' : yeah, breadcrumb is an alt explanation for the behavior. Maybe Toony gets visited if vote goes a bit differently.

A fair warning:
EITHER Fallacy is giving out red-herring abilities again OR alignments can change in this game.

Also something I missed first time around. Could it also be that inspect results can change Max Spin?

Quote from: TolyK on October 13, 2022, 09:46:46 am

Items do exist, but I don't have one. (Nor do I exist...)

Okay, you got me.

I am The Forceful Sentry.

Thrice per game during the day I can take an item from the public item pool right away.

At night I can target a player to learn of every item (if any) they have and select one to toss into the public item pool.

Twice per game at night I can target a player and steal a random item from them, unless I name a specific item which I will take instead.

As well as an additional night auto I won't claim.

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Yep. That's me.

Like, Toony has basically made three or four (honestly not gonna go through all posts on phone, lol) different claims and they all seem reasonable to me, in light of public info and a bit i haven't shown publicly. I don't think that people have access to so much information generally to fake reasonably on mechanics. Or maybe FBYOR has quite stable mechanics, which I missed. But if not, I think it's likely Toony has spit balled a few ideas that seem reasonable, partially taking from actual roles (his or teammates) and seen what sticks. I do understand it's a bit hypocritical to say "knows too much reasonable assumptions", but I haven't changed my story while Toony has. And Webadict has, but I take that more like trolling... And hard to read.

Day is ending soon, huh? I better hurry.

TolyK, you really should have led with that early.

And yeah, can confirm that info.

... You really should have led with that. Claiming miller this late is just bad.

Very annoyed with you right now TolyK. As a Dragon, Fal's given me restrictions on what I can do. I can develop new abilities as time goes on, and if all the other dragons die, I can pick a Breaker for Lylo. I decided to start the day by picking a cop ability. I've also got roleblock, doctor, and bulletproof. Doctor's the only one that actually cures status effects, including on fire. (It can also heal myself if they're On Fire at the time.)

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Ninjas.

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NINJAS.

Yeah, sorry. Was not sure how important Dragon info was (easy to check for liars, for example). Miller was a status i can get rid of, and willingly took as a drawback for current abilities (pregame action and restriction). I can layer change it, which I was planning. Anyways, was not expecting to be a point of contention D1, but apparently it got to that. Not sure what happens if I die, so just giving out info just in case. Probably not too useful to Mafia as of yet,so probably safe even if I survive.