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Unless, of course, we indeed want to lynch Ragshake, in which case I'll change my vote back.
Extend if the day's ending soon. We can shorten later if anything.

I'd guess a role generates these, instead of having a fixed amount.

I get the distinct impression that TolyK is not what he seems and knows more then he lets on...

TolyK

I actually do know more than I let on, however it's not by much (the biggest things are already said).

Tolyk: You said that you'd be 'apparently getting revived a bunch'. Someone would have to kill you first. Why do you think you're a target? Well, besides the 2 infractions, role that stops you from using actions, and being roleblocked in the 'EVENT!'.

I think I'm a target precisely after the second (and third) role that stops me from using actions. Before that, I just knew that I would (normally) revive upon being killed.

Quote from: TolyK on February 16, 2016, 02:19:12 am

Well, that's a lot to happen in one night.
If I was actually shot, then I have no idea why I'm alive - I really should be dead by now. I have an auto that protects me, but it shouldn't be working by now.

... I screwed up on two counts.
A) I'm now realizing that the event shouldn't have gone through
B) If it had gone through, you'd be dead.

Lovely. The end effect is still that I'm not dead, though, so hopefully it works out.

Quote from: Tiruin on February 16, 2016, 05:25:21 am

Flabort: Where is FallacyOfUrist's Roleflip? I flopped to the OP and flopped back into the game in order to write this next paragraph which went "Well we're back to square 1, sans NQT and *checks OP* FallacyOfUrist; we know a bit more about people's ROLEs and ABILITIES but a ton less on scumhunting--and the goings of people now are revolving around abilities and who did wut and "oh you prevent me from winning? Have a vote good sir." which gets answered by "Quite. I shall continue in vague." rather than 'scumhunting'" <_>

Two posts below where he died.
Because I forgot to just edit it into that post.

Quote from: Tiruin on February 16, 2016, 06:49:50 am

Flabort: What're the rules regarding dead people? What're the rules regarding dead people and quicktopics? Will the bastard-y nature of this game ever change those rules? Is there a deadchat?

Dead people may not post in the thread. Dead people can still talk in quicktopics. Perhaps they may change, probably not. No, there is no deadchat.

Mandatory "I told you".

Hmm... Tolyk, is it possible for you to create the equivalent of a Deadchat? Might want to do that, because of NQT's revival ability.

It's completely possible, however not for another 3 or 4 phases because I'm duct-taped and tied and glued to the town's voting-post. :>

@Tiruin: The DF mechanics were still in on N1. So it could've been you. 10% chance of any action turning into a kill, right?

That's exactly what I was saying about the Tumbleweed murder of N1.

RIP my internet, can't do too much from 2g on phone. Cya tomorrow then...

Fishing because it's potentially the last bit of info I can get in my current position. It's potentially the last role I sent in whose (which?) location I don't know.

Hector:

Ragshake has post editing powers, I'm reasonably sure.

I also don't really want to be lynching Ragshake, for (hopefully obvious) selfish reasons. Perhaps we can lynch Tumbleweed instead? Or maybe we need to kill them both at the same time to get rid of them...

Anyway, I'll stop Raggy shaking things up for the rest of the day.

So, uh. Why didn't you stop him earlier, and why do you refer to lynching Tumblewee even though we know he revives? That's bad, based on what everyone's telling me about my vote on TDS. 


Tiruin:

THIS is important because it made me mess up in D1! I was the one who Solid Snake'd TDS >_> (I misread my ability and thought it 'adds a vote' instead of what happened back there).
Since I'm claiming it and someone sent in that role anyway, it's continued below.

Alright, so here're some claims I've to forward--I've that Solid Snake role which I used D1/N2. I got blocked N2 because somebody threw a crowbar at me :V and stuck me in the closet (har har, I'm in the closet. AGAIN[/OOC] ;V)

Wait, so you have Solid Snake vote manipulation thingie. Then blocked N2, when trying to use a different aspect of the role (as stated below, tracking me). Correct?

On my reads list because raisins, everyone is nominally gray. TolyK is of significant mention because I thought he was town; I used a TRACK on him yesternight but then crowbar happened. Hilariously, I misread that one TOO >_> [In which it reads my TARGET is notified of everyone visiting them, including MEE. Point was, at that time in my character-state, I felt he was town-ish.]

I wish that would've gone through, actually; that way I would know who is a blocking sonovabitch.

> Stuff's goin' down because I really want to ensure what TolyK will be by killing his face. There's somewhat of a reviver anyway (notme) so eh. And that reviver seems to be playing the middleman by resurrecting everyone-not-mafia. TolyK, I'd like you to tell us all why you're contacting the Mafia and why you're being very open about it...when context provides that you're pretty much speaking about everything-but-nope. <_< {I may be personally biased because of this attitude}, but dude, I really think you've an ulterior motive. The Mafia is 2+ people! [Presuming mostly a "3"]; it's half of the phone-line-conversation you're doing there. Why did you claim out firsthand that you've a 'power to chat with them' and then leave it hanging there? [as far as skim goes, you didn't expound it--I asked a question about it before]

So, you want to know what's going on by trying to kill me. That seems reasonable.  But your kill failed, so huh.
The reason I'm not telling everything is mostly trust: if I tell everything that's going on in there, some info that would be useful would not be given, most likely. Plus, it's not like you can silence me - I can still talk to people in quicktopics even when dead.

> My N1 action KILLED THE TUMBLEWEED for some reason, even if it was NOT a kill-action. [It was a one-shot bloody investigate aimed NOT at the tumbleweed >_>]

Who were you trying to investigate?

Wait, wat. People are all suddenly voting an NPC? Please recall votes and put them on a person--I have already sent in a PM to Flabort that is the equivalent of pressing the Big Red Nuclear Launch Button.

Spoiler: Which as far as I know, can't be redacted -.- (click to show/hide)

Sorry for the silliness. This is my way of coping with stress of RL and busyness. And not intentionally as a smokescreen, post restriction, or whatever.

Quote from: flabort on February 15, 2016, 10:40:10 pm

Event!
TolyK is suddenly shot. Nobody saw the attacker, but luckily TolyK just fainted and fell over. (Ability to vote lost, ability for actions (still) gone).

...So is there a role that blocks roleflips or is someone protecting TolyK. :v
Because I'm bloody sure that's what's happening now.

Quote from: Deus Asmoth on February 15, 2016, 10:41:51 pm

Tiruin, that didn't feel very nuke-y

I know right? :V
But what the fish. It seems like NPCs are not considered players I guess. Given the wording of the ability I just used.

So, you tried to nuke the NPC's too? Like a multi-kill or something?
I'm still alive, if anything.

Maaaaaan is this feeling like another round of 'Mafia/Town (shouldn't really fight) VERSUS Cult [or whatever]'.
It's like that one game...TolyK and Urist Imiknorris. I remember that one but am forgetting which one <_<
Metaknowledge, hooooo~

UI and I won BYOCards, where we were mafia.
I think you mean Magic Mafia, where Toaster and I were town, but then he was converted to the Mafia by Vector and we decided to win with the mafia? (AND I was town poisoner, which you wouldn't believe ). Good times.

Quote from: TolyK on February 16, 2016, 02:19:12 am

Well, that's a lot to happen in one night.
If I was actually shot, then I have no idea why I'm alive - I really should be dead by now. I have an auto that protects me, but it shouldn't be working by now.

I did that to get your alignment-flip >_> (I mean, the people whose roles DO control the flips are back and revivified). [And rather 'your', but more 'people who are leading being voted' :V)
Also why are you being so blatant -.- It's not something I'm arguing or going against, but...it's messy with my notes, fluctuating you between scum and town :v
Just like every other game. Bluh.

<3
I'm not being blatant, though, unless you mean explicit in saying a lot?

Quote from: Deus Asmoth on February 16, 2016, 12:07:08 am

Essentially, the ability resurrects a person that is dead who would prevent the victory of a faction if they are alive. So if the town is about to win, NQT will be resurrected as he's the first dead mafia.

...So the only way to win is to have a role which wipes either Autos, or wipes abilities.

Or have everyone win? :3

Quote from: TolyK on February 15, 2016, 01:14:18 pm

Quote from: Teneb on February 15, 2016, 12:34:16 pm

TolyK: Did you set up your private chat with NQT before or after his death?

After. If you remember, I had asked to be contacted by them, but they didn't, so I called him instead.

Why would you even want to set up a chat with a known mafia?

To be able to ask for some information that the mafia members are willing to give up, but not to everyone/not publicly. Depending on how Ragshake-lynching goes (and if I don't die...) I might have a plan for D4/D5.

1st point is obvious.
2nd point is derived from the fact that this is a bastard game, and usually they work that way. Given my role this is not an unlikely possibility, since I can help with coordination.
3rd point ended up not being true, as far as I (and the public) know.

Ah, the 4th point.
I have a direct reference to the mafia in my role, which is why I knew there was indeed a mafia team.
The "No SK" was because it's unlikely there would be 2 serial killers, and my role references turning a person into a serial killer.
The "possibly cult" was derived from there being not enough anti-town roles in a bastard game. I have nothing referencing a cult specifically, but it was an educated guess. (Actually, I could potentially be inspected as Cult, SK, Mafia, Outsider, Town, etc. as a "random alignment", but that's from a question to Flabort, not in my role itself.)

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Hey, I have an idea. Since none of my abilities work, inspecting me should lead to a correct result. Plus, I could set aside a post to truth-check, detailing much (but not all) of what I know.