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Social Darwinism, much?

There IS no point to evolution, nature, or any of that. It just is.

Organisms are "designed" to survive and reproduce. It's a self supporting point even though as you said, it doesn't have a point. The point of nature became to survive as soon as organisms that weren't good at surviving or didn't care about surviving started dying off and leaving the others behind to reproduce. But yeah, technically there is no point. Technically you could say there's no point to anything if you really argued it down to fundamentals. I'm pretty sure that's delving into Nihilism though.

Objectively, anything but nihilism is a delusion. Getting anywhere meaningful requires getting subjective.

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Philosophy is fun. Everyone's wrong except me.

Well said. Unless you change your view on something in which case you were wrong even though you aren't any longer.

Past-me can be different than present-me.

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Quote from: Execute/Dumbo.exe on December 13, 2013, 06:21:18 pm

what about a portable gun turret, being basically a large machine gun with basic programming and a large battery to keep it firing at anything not human shaped.

"Now, let's just deploy the turrets and..."
*pewpewpew*
"Um...we now have no truck and one damaged turret."
"What idiot programmed these things?"

That certainly would be a problem, of course, the turret I linked to acted on heat signatures, so it would fire at anything that gives of heat, back to the drawing board.

That would be even worse!
"Now let's just deploy the turrets and..."
*pewpewpew*
"OH THE HUMANI--!"
*pew*

Guys I'm fairly sure this is like most X-Com games where we can only research set things, I mean its up to the GM but that kinda makes sense with the list of available research options in the OP and the way all X-Com games worked ...

True, but...well, this is Bay12. We don't think outside the box so much as blow up the box for daring to exist before promptly thinking a few meters from the wreckage.

Neryavadalailama is Lawful Gets-shat-upon-by-the-universe

Neyravah, it's not that hard. And yes.

Standard alignment categorizations are overrated in my humble opinion. As much as people like sticking certain traits like altruistic as good or selfish as evil, it doesn't always fit in so neatly and before long there's a good chance cracks will begin to appear.
I do what I do and the attempts of others to classify it as good or evil are meaningless to me. All hail the color grey and its many shades!

Well, yes, but it's still a nice shorthand. Even if you've never played D&D, you can understand what "Good," "Evil," "Lawful," "Chaotic," and "Neutral" mean. You more or less intuitively get that a Lawful Good warrior is going to fight to uphold law and order, while a Chaotic Good guy is more of a rebel who does what's right regardless of legality, a Lawful Evil person has some kind of code he follows even though he's a bastard, and that Chaotic Evil is something you want to avoid. Moreover, it's easy to modify if needed. If a man is more lawful on average but has no problem breaking laws when it helps and he can get away with it, you can call him Pragmatic Whatever. If someone's too insane to fit, you can call him Chaotic Crazy (or maybe Lawful Crazy, if he's codified the crazy).
It's not a full description, and it can be thrown out the window for the grayer works, but it works for shorthand, and really what kind of "alignment" description works on the gray?

I really dislike it when people say that 'selfishness' is evil. It isn't. It's Neutral.

It's on the evil side of neutral, though. Just like politeness is on the lawful/good side of neutral, and spitting is on the chaotic side of neutral.

See how flexible it can be when we need to deal with the gray?

You could argue either way which is sort of my point. I mean it's basically in natural biology to try and survive and reproduce at all costs. Is there anything wrong with that? Are you evil if you put your need to survive and reproduce over that of others? Isn't that sort of the point?

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Social Darwinism, much?

There IS no point to evolution, nature, or any of that. It just is.

Not necessarily my view point, I just enjoy throwing these things around. Philosophy is a weird tangled mess that could keep any person busy for quite a long time if they focused too hard on solving it. Hopefully you just don't go bonkers in the process.

Philosophy is fun. Everyone's wrong except me.

Angel explores the entire area, wondering what would be happening next.

AWP. We already have the pistol for if we need rapid fire.

How is this:

6) ...greatly speed up evolution...

not quasi-scientific? Which is, incidentally, what I actually said.

Science is, well, science.
Pseudoscience is poorly-done science, typically leaving out proper confirmation, thorough checking for other explanations, and similar.
Quasi-science is...well, I made it up more or less, but I'm basically using it to mean using sciency terms to try and make your magic disobey the laws of reality a little less.

((Either you're being sarcastic or you're really bad at guessing my plans, GWG ))

((Your plan is to be a sociopathic, semi-controlled space magic anomaly, which I imagine the AM would take about as well as the well-meaning-but-ignorant uncontrolled space magic anomaly.))