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What kind of place is this?

Why do parents send their kids here?

How has there been no repossession of territory, or invasions, or something?

Doesn't nationally-bought land usually remain part of the nation it was part of? (See: The Homestead Act, virtually every other time any nation has sold land to citizens albeit on smaller scales, etc.)

Also: No. Why would we? There's too much of a chance of being caught, and we don't even like the guy. Besides, if we do get caught, we'll be in the same boat.

"Nyeh?! Needs more webbings..." Shkasha muttered, ignoring the kobold.

Try to web up that leak. Breach. Missing wall.

"Silk might be waterproof, but wearing it leaves lots of little holes. If there's no room on the bucket brigade, go for it, but if there is you'd be better-off there."

((Also, I realized some time last night that there might be an inside fuel port. Changing M'Ber's instructions slightly.))

I'd imagine that they could have more traditional reproduction continue to be the norm. The real question is what stop males from being born.

Ive never liked the theory that time is affected by velocity, it flies in the the face of the logic i use to percieve the universe.

Just wait until someone tells him about quantum mechanics.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on November 25, 2013, 08:26:05 pm

I'd imagine that the heat of plasma varies greatly from plasma to plasma. However, some plasma is the temperature of the Sun, and since stars are the only natural source of plasma I am aware of, I generally assume that plasma is within a fair margin of solar temperature. Certainly, it should be over the roughly 1300-1400 degrees it takes to melt steel; otherwise, it would presumably just be called "gas".
And I'm not a futuristic engineer; I'll let them deal with plasma weaponry, however they figure it out.

Quite a few lights contain plasma too. Also, thermal energy is nothing more than the internal kinetic energy of atoms. No mass = No kinetic energy.

I'm not aware of such lights.
Oh, I hadn't considered that. Hm, heat transfer would be tricky...although if we're talking about a plasma sword, would the enemy be in the low-mass field as well?

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1b. If we accept "Screws with density," we should be able to accept some kind of plasma containment field.
2a. Yes, there is a difference. I just don't see why one is inherently more "right" than another, since the whole discussion relies on us chucking out a good bit of the laws of physics relevant to this discussion (ie, conservation of mass/energy). Heck, by your interpretation, reducing mass would increase speed, so the mech would accelerate to near-lightspeed the moment he turned his field on, because his mass would have suddenly decreased, so his velocity would need to increase to compensate. The problem comes into play when you realize that there is no constant speed--what would he be spontaneously accelerating relative to?
2b. Um, it has to run on Handwavium to some extent.

1b. Nope we shouldn't. Otherwise we need to accept everything.
2a. It would be pretty random. We're entering quantum field dynamics here, which I don't understand.
2b. But not completely.

1b. Why not? We're piloting giant robots, fighting kaiju and aliens. Realism is a fun thing to discuss in the OOC thread, but we shouldn't expect much past cinematics in the actual game.
2a. Ooh boy.
2b. No, I'd say that "Disable the Higgs field" is a pretty Handwavium thing.

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1. Again, the air would still be applying as much less force as the mech requires to be lifted.
2. Okay, yeah...we get lots of zero propagation and divide-by-zero stuff, we need to ignore physics completely to make this work at all. Seriously, zero mass means zero force can accelerate you, and that any finite force would instantly accelerate you to lightspeed.

1. Depends on the situation and the mech's aerodynamics, but often yes.
2. Yup, it works better if you think of it as an infinitively small force.

1. I'm not sure how those would affect it as long as the mass of the air decreased by the same proportion as that of the mech.
2. I suppose so, neh?

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On a side note, I just realized something. When that thing goes massless, it looses the centripetal force of gravity, will rapidly drift towards space because of the Earth's rotation. (And the even bigger problem, that it is no longer attracted to the sun, and will be flung out of that orbit too)

On the other hand, air resistance will keep the mech moving along with the atmosphere, and its zero inertia means that it would just go along without even affecting the movement of the air. Geez, zero mass is crazy.

Yes, it is. But for a split section it would move very fast indeed. And I have little idea how that would work, considering the air around it becomes massless.
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Mm-hm...How much of us staying on the Earth is our momentum and how much is constantly-applied forces? That's significant.

interplanetary atmosphere? im noticing a slight discrepancy in our trains of thought

Yes.
ebbor seems to be more on-track, though. All three missions are happening firmly on Terra Firma.

Just a heads-up.

GWG, Ebbor, Unholy-Pariah, USEC and Scrapheap are in. IC thread here. Character sheets are not ready as I'm still at work (and need some time sorting out minor points in battle mechanics).

Izu, Hawai'i, or Korea?

Korea. It sounds pretty urgent, putting it over Izu, and it doesn't involve a risk of field-testing the waterproofing of our mecha, which is always a plus.

Im no good at starting IC conversations so im kinda waiting on someone to initiate stuff.

Working on it.

Nuriel and Selina enter the portal!

((FIXED!!! É ÈÈ ...noooo!!!  THere we go!))

Meme hugs back.

Selina nods and puts the blanket around them to teleport outside the portal.

"Er... sh-should I follow or..." Selina doesn't know.

"Do you want to?"

The healers in Toronto have their hands full. Eventually, all surviving capes are brought back to full health, and most are sent back home. The rest are either locals or dead. A monument for the latter is planned, and will consist of a blue circular wall, with the names of the thirty-odd capes who gave their lives inscribed on the inside.

The Protectorate lost some good heroes: All but Momentum, Phantasm, and Slither were both slain by Naga. So was Tinkerwreck of the Guild, Bullhit of the Wards, plus nearly all of the independent heroes, several villains, and several out-of-towners. Few capes showed, and damage to the town was on a level almost unheard of, while the casualty rate of the capes was higher than it had been in a long time. Capes around the world had gotten complacent after some easy Terror attacks; this tragedy should help snap them out of it. But for now, there is talk of the Seven's remaining four members joining the Protectorate (or Wards, for Bullet Girl), and hopes of recruiting the two surviving independents as well.

As for the villains...they lost some members as well. The Lilies were hit the hardest, although they are technically heroes. The two surviving members seem to be recruiting, although they are having a fair number of arguments. Herbicide is suffering from losing its leader once more; it may break up into smaller gangs, be absorbed into another group, or determine a new leader who will once more overhaul the whole group. Rumors suggest that Apokryfi and the Islanders are also seeking to replace their lost members, as may be the last of the Deadly Four. The Bones, the Bloody Guts, and the Rats are doing well, unfortunately, since their members were absent at the confrontation and their territories relatively untouched. The Shadow Strikers were more-affected, due to their home turf being more flooded by Naga, but they are more open about their activities.

Past the cape scene, things are changing. Buildings were destroyed, streets flooded, the whole nine yards. Naturally, thousands, probably hundreds of thousands, of people are leaving Toronto. Between the deaths caused by Naga and the evacuations, Toronto's population may have decreased by a million by the time a week passes from the attack. Businesses are closed, supplies are being brought in, the inevitable debates over the possibility of abandoning the city commence. It is time for the heroes to take action, to show that the city is still safe.

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((Going over summaries of the next few days. We can start the actual RP stuff any time from the end of Naga's attack to a bit later, if you wish.))

Elena was torn, confused by what she saw. What was this thing in the heads of Selina, and of capes from around the region, that had taken even the mind of Zion? No other heroes in Toronto, save Selina, had the presence in their thoughts and feelings, but...what should she do? Who could she tell?
Just as importantly, the Wards were in a good bit of chaos. Half of the Protectorate was dead, which meant that patrols for the Wards had to be massively increased. Moreover, Gus was dead, as was everyone in Jesse's family, Leonor's mother, and both of Sue's parents. In case all of this wasn't enough, Ines was retreating into her own head, not talking so much. The Wards' psychiatrist decided that the best remedy would be to reduce her workload, meaning that others got hit with that much more patrols and paperwork. Not a good time for the team.

Steven sighed. He had a moment of glory, being flung at Naga's side a few times, hitting once...maybe twice. Now, he has a chance to join the heroes. All he has to do is fill out some paperwork and agree to some parole conditions--basically, follow the law, don't cause trouble, check in frequently when you're not at HQ or accompanied by another hero.

Tabitha was devastated. Her life's work was destroyed. Sure, most of the data was backed up on the PRT's off-site servers, but...well, she lost most of the work of the last few days. It takes a lot of bandwidth to back up the tinker designs, and most of the bandwidth for backing up files was spent on things less massive and likely to change by the next evening, like the files on the Bones and other such threats. She could still remember a lot of the principles, had some notes on paper, and some stuff was surely backed up...but, overall, she was back to behind where she was right after that massive burst of effort. Worse, her laboratory was basically wrecked, so she couldn't really test the designs...or easily rebuild the old ones, either.
On what could be construed as a bright side, if she wanted to begin work a hero, she would be admitted, pretty much without any issues.

Selina rested a lot. She had to deal with quite a bit. On one hand, she didn't have to worry about where she would eat or sleep; on the other hand, she--and the other Wards, of course, but she wasn't used to it--had patrols pretty much every day, plus good amounts of paperwork; plus, Selina had to deal with parole conditions and the other her, the murderous one, and tensions were rising amongst the team. Overall, it's a bad time to be learning the ropes.

Matthew, alias Aquarius, was lucky to come out of this alive and unharmed...mostly. Physically, he was fine. Mentally? Well, his sister was hospitalized, nearly dead. He saw others die, crushed or drowned. [14] And, the more he thought about it, the more certain he was...he should have died at some point in the battle, or at least been injured much worse. It was like Naga spared his life. He was glad about this, but couldn't help but be suspicious...
He also saw advertisements of various kinds, encouraging surviving or newly-triggered parahumans to sign up to join the Protectorate or Wards. He considers joining; they need all the help he can get, and it would probably pay more than his current job.

Kevin awoke, coughing. Soon, he was back on his feet and in good working order. He was soon discharged, with an offer to join the Protectorate. Realizing that nearly all of the independent heroes of Toronto were dead kind of startled him; it wasn't surprising, per se, but it certainly left an impression on him. In case that wasn't enough, Kevin's house was also in one of the more devastated areas.

((Would the other players please remind me of your characters' names, backgrounds, and such? Maybe copy-paste them from the RtD thread?))