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Event: Fniff is teleported to a city in a world vaguely similar to but in no way quite like our real world.

((When you say finish the game, do you mean the entire RP or just the RTD?))

Just the RtD. Unless we got so unlucky with rolls that I had to call a TPK. Which won't happen because I would fudge the rolls it won't happen and I will be honest in making it not happen.

1a, think we're good on players.

Vote up top. Although I would take the opinions of the six original players with greater weight if they post in the thread.

Ha ha ha. I have to work sometimes, you know.

1. I recommend you read it. It's a good, if long, story.

2. Terrors, similar to the Endbringers of Worm and the, um, Terrors of Name Pending, are basically giant superpowered things powerful enough to take on dozens or hundreds of superhumans and win, in the sense of causing 25-50% casualties, plus numerous civilian casualties, plus massive property damage, plus managing to retreat to fight another day. This is even taking into account the direct intervention of the universes' resident virtually-a-god wandering superhero.

((I should have more time once--oh goddammit.))

"Who is it?"

Permission to - know what, fuck it we haven't got time.

He pushes a few buttons on the wrist pad and the cells open, allowing the occupants out.

Your collars will be removed when we get to the staging ground. Now follow me.

"Excellent."

((Welp, I may need help here, as I've thought precisely jack out. GWG, were there any particular capes here I should include?))

((Who died and made me GM? Oh right, kj.))

Wait, what are we even fighting?

((Have you ever read/heard of Worm? Or seen my RP based on the same?))

[100!+49+5-50] A pair of gloves. Let the gods decide what the hell they do.

If no one (ie, not rag) disagrees...

((Wait, who the hell is Jessica?
Also if she's 5 months along she has 3 more to go. 8 months is the normal timespan of pregnant.))

((Nine and change, actually. 283 days, give or take several weeks, ))


Two people that look like pale-skinned, leathery-winged angels exit the portal, one male and one female.
"...What's going on?"
"They're attempting Diplomacy checks."
"...Well."
"I know, it's weird."

No... that's not what I meant. They don't deserve to die but they are going to die. Not from us but from the monster killing them right now and if not that then the army outside the gate.

In that case I fundamentally misunderstood large parts of your post.

I want to save them... by turning them into monsters. They don't want to turn into monsters because... well I guess because they just like being human.
See. They'd rather die than become monsters. They don't deserve to die for being stupid. Which is exactly why I'm saying we should transform them against their will. Transforming them against their will is what I was referring to by "tough love" not letting them die which is what I was opposed to.

Fallacy.
There are non-turn-everyone-into-monsters-against-their-will solutions.

Anyway, Bay12 plays nice all the time believe it or not. Hell, even the "Evil Overlord" game got turned into some babysit the little blob suggestion game (although it is well written). Frankly I'm a little sick of people trying so hard to be nice that it puts the main character at a disadvantage.

And I'm tired of people who are so pragmatic that they come of as unrealistically cold. Which comes up a lot. The Last Night Troll, The Heroe's Wife, even TWoOtA (one of the greatest suggestion games in all of Bay12's history) have all had us be uncharacteristically, pragmatically callous...and most had us suffer for it.

When there is a goblin siege outside your fort, do you let your dwarves blindly run out because they want socks? Because personally, I close the gate and lock those stupid little dwarves up until the military cleans things up. Is it mean of me to deny my dwarves of the socks they so desperately desire? Maybe but I'll be damned if it isn't for their own good. My own good too but still.

True dilemma.

Edit: Nice guy approach has almost resulted in this game dying. Clearly it isn't completely effective. Not saying we can't be nice but that we shouldn't be nice to a degree where it hurts us.

Fallacy.
Other god games (like The New God, which inspired this) survived far more "nice-guy"ness. What killed this game is more lack of updates.

Edit2: I'm definitely not a "nice" guy in the godhood game I'm participating in right now. Yet I still managed to end a civil war and form a prospering empire as well as convincing them to make peace with a neighboring nation that they had been fighting against for centuries. Sure, it required some oppression and some slaughtering of heretics but the results, I think, speak for themselves.

Congratulations. Oh, and same fallacy.