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didnt watch the movie, also dont we have an ice user already?
Ice User =/= Elsa Expy. My character is going to be a bit more like Elsa. And a fair bit not, but eh.
Also, OREO is MIA.

(( And because I haven't forgot. Where are we on Will going to paris and going to talk with Arthur?))
Hell if I know.

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Also, GWG, your definition of music is "music I like is real music, all else isn't".
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No, it isn't. I've given my definition of music previously, and in fact refuted that argument the post before yours. Do you even read what you're arguing against?

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And it is true that anything can be art. As mentioned, you're conflating "art I enjoy and/or approve of" with "art that is", which is far more offensive than simply including all things intended as art. The only purpose for more specific definitions of art is to exclude things you don't like from it, which is a matter of ideology, not reason. An excuse to put artists you don't like down, pretty much.
Again, somethign being art isn't a compliment and something not being art isn't an insult. The computer I'm using to type this post isn't art, and Simultaneous Windows on the City is. (Probably, let's not get into definitions.) That doesn't mean that SWotC is somehow better than this computer, or that I like it more--both of those are false. Similarly, while few would argue that Civilization is art, and many would argue that The Last of Us is, I'd rather play Civilization than The Last of Us.
Art is art. Art is not superior. Stop saying it is.

As with several forms of music, Rap has very cultural roots. I can relate to what these people are talking about because I was raised in a similar environment. It's the same reason why I'm not into Country, because it's infused with a culture I wasn't raised and exposed to, though it is also obviously music.
Your point?

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GWG, you do know that the "Duty Calls" comic is satirical, right? I do know it's hard for people to get Satire, especially when it's in textual form. The comic meant to ridicule anyone who behaves similarly to the stick figure. If you can't take that from me, the real XKCD fans unanimously agree on that as well.
Yes, I know it's satire. Yes, I know it's probably pointless to try and correct people. Yes, that comic describes my situation pretty well (save for the person asking me to come to bed). That's why I linked it, actually.
No, I'm not likely to stop trying.

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Einsteinian Roulette / Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« on: April 20, 2014, 10:10:05 am »
I know.  I can count to thirty-one on one hand.  And I don't think it's been rolled more than that.
Oh, I very much doubt that.

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Even aside from that, almost all speech rolls were irrelevent.  Flint talking with the sods is one of the rare cases where it's useful, but those cases almost never come up. I did say that KJ would lose functionality in some very specific circumstances.
Disagreeing here.
Still, as long as Kyle sticks with someone who doesn't suck at talking without being an idiot, he'll be fine. Probably. Well, he probably won't get maimed/killed from his low Speech score.

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Quote from: NAV
realistically, 2 amps and a decomp.
Won't argue against this, but I'm still really uncertain whether this is true.
Advanced amp users want decomps to avoid overshots.

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Not true.  The AM has said that she has a universal amp. But, she's weird, so I'll concede the point to you.
And why, praytell, do you believe her?

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Manips can be used as emergency nukes.
Very true, although how good a point it is is.... kinda debatable.  Do you want random people carrying around city-destroying nukes?
Also, do you want to throw away your expensive weapon/tool as a nuke that's probably going to backfire?

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Not gonna refute everything like with NAV cause I'm really really short on time.
They had some similar points anyways.

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However, we have never seen an ARM opertive overload an amp.  I'm not even sure if it can happen by accident- perhaps your brain going unconcious stops it?  If so, that would mean that every time an amper has gone unconcious then they would have caused an overload if they were a manip user.
We don't know enough about amp overloads to say that.

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Overreaching with a manipulator likewise doesn't leave you drained and with a splitting headache
It does, actually.
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I remember Miya getting a headache with his manip. Which is why, for a little while, I thought Avatars came with amps.

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Also, KJ, just ignore GWG.  He knows very little.
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Are you trying to start an argument?
Besides, I don't see you playing RotMG and putting up with Kyle's idiocy.

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How much XP did Hyoma and Samson get?
If they were in the fight proper; 50xp.
If they helped set it up; 10xp.
If they supported in the fight: 25xp
I believe that's 35 for Will. What's he at now?

Oh hey, the OOC thread is back.

((It'd be odd for Kyle to just stop out of no where though.))
Characters can change. Might want to start learning from his mistakes.

((So, is that permission for @KJ to commence his plan to take on Murder Night and liberate part of Africa?))
Glad the OOC thread is opened, because I need to write up stats for Murder Night.
Who I'm planning to give a dash of Amy Hart.

((What's an Origin?))
Something rag's kept in his head for months?

((First-generation Vampire. Powerscale wise, think somewhere between gods and angels, except the eighth which could get into a powerstruggle with Shys and have it be a tossup.))
Goddammit rag, stop making Mary Sues!

((So they're all weakass apart from one which could loldestroy everything ever?
Angels are pretty powerful (rag's plot had one wiping the floor with the PCs, killing a Voidwalker, and only avoiding a TPK by heading across the world and preparing to raise Yuri's mother to godhood), gods moreso. I don't think "weakass" describes any of them.

((Oh right we have multiple types of angel. Mine. The ones capable of nuking planets by existing at them too hard.))
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Yeah, you need to tone down your cosmic powers.

((They can be killed by mortals, hence they're weakass in my eyes.
Besides, saying something's higher tier than gods isn't saying much when gods can apparently be killed with 2 days prep time.))
Reread your post.
Everything is weakass by your definition.

Well, she's pretty bad at losing.
But beyond that? Other than not having sex (though this would take MONTHS to resolve and Loki IIRC isn't much better at it) there's really just a couple things he can think of as options. Most of them are games of chance, though, and she'd notice any signs of cheating, so it'd be... difficult to be assured of victory.
He'd probably remember the things she's REALLY good at rather... *cough* vividly.
Best bet would be to pick a challenge that isn't part of her bailiwick, however, so stay away from anything involving sex, reading people's intentions, or mind games.
Which is a lot of things, really, so that'll be a bit of a problem.
I'd like to bring up the Mary Sue thing again.
We should totally humiliate her by pitting her against a mere mortal and winning. A tech contest with Kyle, a drawing contest with Selina, something with Will, a cuteness contest with Angel/Meme/Meme...

((Still. Killing gods should be the product of generations after generations preparing for it, powering up until they could solo anything else in the setting, and then still trivially getting their asses dragged through the dirt, only maybe winning because some lucky bastard rolled 15 100s in a row. That would be a god fight worthy of my attention. P))
At that point, you might as well call it impossible. And not include gods as antagonists.
Besides, by the time you're preparing for generations, you should give the poor bastards a better chance than that.

((also this))
I voted the fifth. I broke the tie!

[To: Lunette] <It is better, as the Disney princess says, to 'let it go'. So does Big Boss, but whatever.>
((Someone needs to join with an Elsa expy.))
Remember the character I mentioned I was planning a while back with ice powers and whatnot?
Not exactly an expy so much as a fan, but if someone else makes an Elsa expy before I introduce her*, I will be...annoyed.

*Which will probably be when there's not a bunch of other stuff going on. I don't want to interrupt someone else's plot with a new character.

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<... You seem to not understand the word practical.>
<Kyle finds it impractical. Let that sink in.>

<A gun, brass knuckle, and blade seems very practical. She's quick--I threw a dart at her and she caught it swiftly. Like a ninja.>
<The problem is that, by trying to be three weapons at once, it fails at being very good at any. Too cumbersome and, in the original form, low-quality to be good brass knuckles; the grip made it tough to use as a knife or pistol; the lack of barrel or sights of any kind meant that I'd have trouble accurately hitting targets from more than a few feet away; there isn't a trigger guard, which is kinda important; the problems go on and on.>

<... You seem to not understand the word practical.>
<A gun tends to be more practical than a blade. Use some magic to increase accuracy. It still can function as a dagger.>
<Why not give her a real revolver, and then a dagger if it's needed? That avoids all the compromises needed for the apache.>

"She's into sadomasochism. And I am good at the sadism part."
<...Can't decide if I should ask for clarification.>

<As the Devil's Advocate here, I don't recall him trying with Marie, either Stellas, Bismuth, Camille, Nodoka, the other Alice, or Ester.>
<Are you sure, one if a dragon in a committed relationship and the other is almost never around, committed relationship, child, he doesn't want to rot off his private parts, and he sure tried some.>

<Still, it's always the fact I seem to try to seduce every woman I see and never the fact that I can make a laser gun out of sticks and mud or, or the fact that I always carry smelling salt, or that I had a god in my head!>
<Hard to mock you for the first, the second's kinda minor, and the third was evicted.>
<More notably, your promiscuity is much more shaping of your behavior than your mechanical skill and whatnot.>

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I'd again like to ask what the Part Welder people were gushing over that was used to make the Borg Cube is. Sounds like something that could be used to make big craft without insane partcount.

Also, why is the title complaining about being too long now?

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Quite possibly.

Mind if I ask where you got that 2 km figure?

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Other Games / Re: Civilization V
« on: April 20, 2014, 09:21:32 am »
Not sure about capitals (or why city-states would use the base city value), but Kathmandu was healing three HP per turn.

And there are only so many barbarians you can destroy en route to war. How do you propose I level up units I'm sending to war?

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I wouldn't mess up with FFS' update schedule. Let the game be and flow as it is convenient for the GM.
Just making a request. Worth a shot.

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Nah, the Deliquent Player's thread only works for Minimalist games or other silly stuff. Relying on it for this game will get the game killed within 2 turns.
I doubt it. Worst thing that could happen is that the world would be overrun with weird beasts.

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It does make a decent threat though.
That's the primary benefit of such a policy, yes.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: [Short ISG] Asperge
« on: April 20, 2014, 09:11:44 am »
Short, eh?
((A little experiment to keep me awake through five [seven?] days of testing. No updates to my other games until tests are done then this will likely die. Suggestion format.))

Name: Ruby Rose
Zodiac: Scorpio
Age: 15
Gender: Female
Appearance: Animesque
Preferred Weapon: Scyther Rifle

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That's a lot of new pages.

Not quite right, it should be pleasing to one's ear since that is a bit broader sounding.
"Pleasing to the ear" and "Pleasing to one's ear" mean basically the same thing. One just sounds more objective.

...and rap (if it can be called music);
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...Quick guys, note down the date! This has to be the first time I can remember fully agreeing with GWG on anything. :P
A historical even t'be sure.
It's not the first time I've said that.
Although, coincidentally, that is one of the few things I agree with my elementary/middle-school music teacher on.
(We didn't get along too well.)

really? I mean, I pretty much never listen to stuff, but "it isn't music" is just plain bullshit. What kind of definition of music could you possibly have that doesn't include rap? unless it also doesn't include loads of other genres
See mine. And also clarifications below.

A mixture of rhythm, melody, and optionally lyrics that is pleasing to the ear.
Well, does this not qualify for all those?
It does, but it doesn't sound much like the rap I'm familiar with.
I'd call it more of a country/western song anyways. Its melody and themes are more typical of that genre than rap.
And to be perfectly fair, the verses wouldn't quite qualify as music by my definition. It's more the refrains that make it melodious enough to be indisputable music.

Rap includes rhythm, melody (sometimes), and lyrics. As for it not being pleasing to the ear, that's subjective. If I hated classical music, would I claim that it wasn't music at all? Of course not.
Also, FYI, the actual definition is
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vocal or instrumental sounds (or both) combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion.
So yeah, rap is music.
The rap I'm familiar tends to have pretty much non-existent melody, and is rather displeasing to the ear. Rather noisy and dissonant.
Could there be rap that doesn't follow those conventions? Sure, but I haven't heard it.

GWG: Why do you argue?
Depends on the argument. Sometimes it's cathartic; sometimes I'm trying to influence the policy of the group (e.g, the argument on if we should cut ourselves out of the elevator or if we should just open the door); sometimes, people insult me, explicitly or no, and I'm fighting back; and sometimes, people are just wrong.
And I generally prefer the term "debate".

When it comes up to a subject like that, what does it matter how GWG feels about Rap? He's allowed to think it's "not music", he's just some random guy in the world. No offense, because hey, I'm another random guy. If GWG was some authority on music or culture, maybe I'd speak up, but he's not. So let him think what he wants to think, it's not like he's going to show up to Coachella or Rock the Bells and convince everyone to go home because rap concerts don't feature real music. He's not going to end a rap career or effect the genre. He can do his thing, and I can do mine.
Moreover, I don't particularly care if other people like rap, even if I don't consider it music. It's not like they're fans of 50 Shades of Gray or something.

So, basically, GWG is to the internet what I am in person.
Yeah...I try not to do that in person, that causes more issues.

PW, are you tired? You seem tired.
It's always a little obvious isn't it?
Fluffy semi-non-sequitur posts are a pretty big sign of sleepiness.
Rabbit cotton ball bumblebee...um...dust bunny...something else fluffy...
This made more sense before I typed it. Well, more less sense.
For me, a visible sign of sleep deprivation is usually that I either say I should get some sleep or else fall asleep lying on the table in front of them. (The latter happened once, after I spent all night awake watching most of the Harry Potter movies. I'm evidently not suited to all-nighters...)

This thread has suddenly turned awfully civil...
Once people get over the novelty of non-civility, why bother?

WHY THE FUCK IS SLEEP NECESARY, ANYWAY?!?

HUH?
xkcd has one on that, too.

WHY THE FUCK IS SLEEP NECESARY, ANYWAY?!?

HUH?
Don't you heal cuts and stuff faster while you're asleep? Or is that a myth?
How would you measure that? You'd need to cut someone in a way that it heals in hours rather than days or weeks.

I'd argue but I'm contemplating killing my character in another thread since people only remember his sex habits anyways.
We also remember his stupidity and inability to accept that souls exist despite overwhelming evidence.
Consider trying to develop your character in a non-suicidal-over-petty-things way.

MUTHERFUCKER YOU DON'TEVEN KNOW HOW TO DEPRIVE SLEEP YOU
YOU SEE THIS SHIT?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
MUTHERFUCKIN POWERPUFF GIRLS DEFENDERS OF TOWNSVILLE VIDOE GAME
THIS IS WHY I GET NO SLEPP
Pretty sure Civilization beats out that "vidoe game".

YOU THINK YOU CAN ARGUEN HTIS
WHAT YOU THINK THIS IS SOME KIND OF ARGUEMENT THREAD OR SOMETHING?
...What?

The fuck happened
This is why I dislike going to work
Glad to hear your job is so pleasant.

Why is this a problem. Abuse that power mang. Make it yours own. Knock up a lamp to get a flash light. Bust on a blunderbuss to birth a buncha...hand guns. Build an army of angry babies spawned from random objects. Set yourself up as a fertility god who grows fields of wheat via the expert help of sacred reverse-virgins and their surprisingly good aim.
The ability to impregnate random things is not a power you should be afraid of.
I'm pretty sure his ability only works on things with uteruses. Uteri? Is there even a plural or that word that--spellcheck likes uteri.
Huh.

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Also, theres a good degree of irony here. I created this thread to contain the crap from other threads yet it appears to be producing crap of it's own. Some sort of over unity crap machine here.
At least the crap isn't in other threads!

Also @KJ, the more recent stuff may have been because your initial reaction to that new character sheet post was "Kyle needs to sleep with her.".
Yeah, that was...a blunder.

You know, that's a good idea for a plot. Kyle figures out how to abuse his powers and creates an army of his children and overthrows that MN bitch and then takes her and her army as slaves to further conchere Africa...
Familiar with Worm? Yeah...Murder Night isn't exactly a wimp. Good luck.

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I don't know why my jokes about Kyle's sex life are taken seriously then.
They're not. They're jokes.

I leave for ~3 hours and we're in 5 more pages deep (woo 75~ posts).
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I get a feeling this will continue? :P
At this rate? Other, unrelated games will start dumping their textual excrement here and it will turn into some sort of accelerating First Category Perpetual Motion Machine. A rather useless one that will suddenly die a few months in.
If it requires a constant input of energy, it fails the classical definition of a perpetual motion machine.
If it dies a few months in, it fails every definition of a perpetual motion machine.

Also, yes rap is music. You may not like it, and there's a bit much talking perhaps, but that doesn't means it's not music.
It's like those people that see a work of art they don't understand/like, and immediately dismiss it as 'that's not art'. Not to say everything is art in and of itself (one should be careful not to get carried away with arty-farty bullshit) but to make such rash categorizations is often not leading to anything worthwhile.
I don't like rap. I don't consider rap music. These two facts are not significantly related.
I like poetry and literature, even those aren't music. I like all sorts of things that aren't music or art.

On that note, the Scat style of music being very similar to rap could be called not music as well. And I don't see people trying to dismiss that.
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Well, in my case, it's quite possibly because I've never heard of "scat" music. And given that its name is a synonym for excrement, I'm not sure I want to.

On that note, the Scat style of music being very similar to rap could be called not music as well. And I don't see people trying to dismiss that.
That means you discount this as music
You gonna get criticized son

Oh, that's scat?
Yup. Melody, harmony. Music. Arguably racist music, but still music.

Quote from: Harry Baldman
Art is anything people intend to be art
I find this definition inherently distasteful because it allows literally anything to be art, if it's made with the right intent. Up to and including RC's bottled flatulence.
Mind, I don't have any better definition of "art," but I can work on definitions if you're more specific.

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Einsteinian Roulette / Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« on: April 20, 2014, 08:24:25 am »
Piecewise always keeps track of mind points, but he rarely keeps track of ammo.
Even manip batteries?
...Manipulators suddenly seem more useful.

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Also, roleplaying. Some people choose their stats to match the character, not to be the most powerful. I don't enjoy roleplaying a character with 0 intelligence, but who somehow acts intelligently. Or a character with 0 charisma who somehow acts charismatic.
Indeed.

(though often dex is superior, cause dodging>tanking, except for when there's no dodging possible).
Which comes up pretty frequently.

Okay, thanks.
A good piece of advice to make your beginning experience more interesting and fun is to purchase a box from a fellow named Nyars, preferably a pentagon or so, probably best if it's green, purple or blue. Small boxes cost 3 tokens, medium boxes cost 5 tokens and large ones cost 8. It'll cut into your funds, obviously, but a lot of the most interesting and useful stuff you can get, you can get from there at low prices if you get lucky.
And if you aren't...well...you might either get a non-standard power source* or a dangerous alien artifact that tries to kill you.

*If the alien artifact thingy was micro-USB compatible, I would find it much more useful.

As far as optimizing, make charisma and speech zeros.  I can count the number of times either stat has been rolled in this whole game, on one hand.  It's entirely possible to completely avoid using either of those, without losing any functionality except in very specific circumstances.
Charisma, maybe, but Speech has been rolled quite a few times. That said, make it 0. Speech critfails are hilarious!

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If you do this, drop Intelligence to zero as well; the only uses for int are qualifying for manips, and having your character think for you.
And let's face it...if the past is any indication, you don't play smart characters well.
:P

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Yes. Because the PCs won't notice the goblin creeping around and grabbing loot. Or, should we succeed, care that some of their loot disappeared. Look what Kyle thinks of us.

It's unwise, and anyways what're we going to do with it?

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Honestly, I think this is going to go much better if you just skip people who don't post.
Or use the Delinquent Player Thread.

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