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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on September 18, 2013, 10:57:34 am

Quote from: Tomcost on September 18, 2013, 10:25:23 am

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on September 18, 2013, 10:22:31 am

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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on September 18, 2013, 09:13:08 am

((People keep calling it a vacuum, but it doesn't act much like one. Nor much like a black hole. I'm hunching that Mydidia is some kind of attractive force, perhaps gravity.))

((It seems to work as an extreme lack of matter in a given point (with unnatural matter levels below 0). If it were a black hole, it wouldn't cease to exist, as it should actually grow. The vacuum also explains why it dissapears: because it has been filled.))

((Hence:))

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on September 18, 2013, 09:13:08 am

((People keep calling it a vacuum, but it doesn't act much like one. Nor much like a black hole. I'm hunching that Mydidia is some kind of attractive force, perhaps gravity.))

((But a kind of attractive force wouldn't make matter dissapear, and also wouldn't dissapear on its own. That's why I say it's a kind of point with a negative matter))

((As to the first: It could easily crush matter similarly to how black holes do, just to a lesser extent and with a lesser mass, so it doesn't go far enough to make a gravitational singularity. As to the second: Why not?
And if it was negative matter, somehow, how would people made of Myxidia not be destroyed when they "absorb" an amount of matter equal to their mass? And while I'm at it, what happens to the matter? The closest thing to that which exists is antimatter; this and any other method of destroying matter would release energy, and this energy release would be obvious.
Further evidence: It is on the same page as the repulsive force and other words which I could classify as "energies".))

Quote from: Toaster on September 18, 2013, 10:43:54 am

Hah ha, bother me.  Who says you're not just giving me ideas?

Are you implying that you don't know what Myxidia is?

((While discussing these things is fun, I sometimes find that as it already is defying the laws of physics this doesn't have much sense, but I will keep on discussing anyway.
Arguments:
1) If it crushes matter, then there would be at least a point of an incredible wheight where the black hole used to be. hat point would inmediately fall and maybe break the floor.
2) Black holes do not dissapear over time. They keep growing as long as there is mass to absorb.
3) People made of black hole-thing has to do an endurance roll upon absorbing stuff, thus absorbing stuff weakens them, unless they roll high enough
4) As it is not "antimatter", but an impossible physically but mathematically feasible "negative matter", that, as negative numbers and positive numbers, negates its opposite.
5) The "classification" argument may be invalid considering how Toaster is not sure of what it is exactly))

((1. The arena was unaffected by any of the massive forces we have brought to bear against it. I can see a speck of neutronium or something smacking into the floor and being ignored.
2. When did I say this was a black hole? I guessed it was a massive, temporary (usually) attractive force.
3. The way I read it, absorbing stuff DISRUPTS them, because it is an uneven force on their body unlike the even force that pulling in air would be. If it was like you've claimed, absorbing stuff would be like more hit points, which would be lost over time as air was absorbed.
4. Physically impossible and extremely nonsensical. Especially since matter with negative mass ("negative energy," it's called) has a repulsive effect, not an attractive one.
5. It's circumstantial evidence, but it's circumstantial evidence on the same side as many other convincing arguments.))

Quote from: Tomcost on September 18, 2013, 12:05:18 pm

Quote from: Toaster on September 18, 2013, 11:58:28 am

Quote from: Tomcost on September 18, 2013, 11:43:08 am

2) Black holes do not dissapear over time. They keep growing as long as there is mass to absorb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation

((I said "as long as there is mass to absorb". There is plenty of mass in the arena, even in the form of air. So the black hole shouldn't collapse, unless it is not a black hole and it is another phenomenon))

((A wormhole to the land of lost socks is the only logical explanation.))

((If you weren't being satirical, I would disprove that hypothesis heavily.))

New title! This obviously has plot-based implications!

((Elf, are you reading my posts? I've asked some questions of you and you don't seem to have consistently responded.))

Richard irritably sighs at Matthew.
"Not hitting girls will be your undoing eventually. Not that I would, unless forced."

"Would you consider the circumstances I was under forced?"

"...no.

How....no...what..."
He then proceeds to gibber like a spoilt brat denied his toys.

Will moans again.

"Are you still good there, Will? I'm not entirely sure what we should go about doing. Maybe head into the arena itself? Oh, and there go the Gladiator Quotes. I freaking called it."

"Ugh...too much information at once. So much new stuff, all at once. Universes of data, swimming through the goldfish-bowl of my brain all at once...give me a minute, if we don't get some magical girls flying through the air I should be fine in a few minutes."

Izzy seems worried.
"W-what's h-happening..."

"More information overload..."

((I think I understand Golds pain now... geez!!!))

((Ha ha ha!
Seriously, though: One of the s,lightly annoying things about college is how the choppy schedule leads to me using absurd amounts of time catching up to this kind of game on the forums.))

((...I didn't get ninja'd!?))

((I know, right?))

"I'm fine, my scythe does that when it's being used as a weapon..."

<As opposed to what, an agricultural tool?>
"Scythes are used as such..."

Also GWG, Stella may be able to transform, but it's more like she has two bodies than a magical girl transformation both are as much truly her as the other, but I don't know much about magical girls so meh.))

((I don't know much about them, either. But given that the magical forms of RotMG characters range from demons possessing the girl to suppressed emotional characteristics to some sort of ancestral spirit...))

Mini!Selina glides over to Stella, gently poking her face with one of her tiny fingers.

((They're in the same place now?))

Matthew looks over at Will.
"Um, is he okay?"

I, SIR, am Stella Wyrm, trainee Hero.  And what do you mean by heretic? You are very loud for a spiritual man.

Stella is getting more visible uncomfortable now

Angel and Angel decide to hug Stella. She sounds like she needs it.
((FYI, Angel and Angel are both five-year-old little girls.))

"Ladies, ladies! Don't you folks know the slightest thing about gun safety? Don't point it at anything you don't want to put a hole in."

<She's following that rule.>

I guess you have never heard of freedom of religion then. and no I do not worship this so called god-emperor, I am more an empirical evidence sort of girl

<Agnostic, eh? Well, let me give you some firsthand testimony of-->
"_{Nuriel, she can't hear you.}"
<...Damn. I'm just used to these mind-bracelet thingies.>

1. Hardly a good argument.
2. Who said anti-Riltia would be in the party?
3. It is just as common for the polar opposite to look the opposite of what you look like.

"Why the hell do I get smacked but Cyrielle doesn't?"
Richard looks irritated.

((Choose a response when you remind me who smacked Richard:))

The door is....gone. As in literally, gone.

Will groans.

Just then, everyone suddenly gains access to their powers again.

The Angels release bursts of their powers. The room is full of steam.

Will gets that the peasants are most definitely not from their world.

The peasants themselves are cheering on Angerus quietly and defiantly.

((Question: Are they from Angerus's world?))

Angel and TAngel start cooling and heating the door thing to weaken it.

((And class interrupts me half a sentence before I can post, and 33 new posts...))

<Righto... wait. FFFFFFUUUUUUU-> The little ball of light explodes, the light rushing into Yuri's body.
Crimson light bursts from the seal on Yuri's back, burning like flames for a second and driving her to her knees. "nng..."
<... Goddamnit.>

<This room is once more safe for demons! Can I get out now?>

<FUCK. MOTHERFUCKING FUCK. GAH.>

Nuriel starts using telepathy to make fun of Demons Run.
"Why is it called Demons Run, anyways?"
Nuriel falls silent.

"FUCK YOU, YOUR NOT EVEN FUCKING HUMAN!"

((...Nah, I won't.))

Clonegerus falls back, bleeding more purple blood.
"LEAST I DIDN'T FUCKING FALL FOR A FUCKING CULTIST, FUCKING PUSSY SHITEATING MOTHERFUCKER!"

"_{Dammit dammit dammit this is very interesting but shut up...}"

Red light erupts from their eyes, blood spewing from wrists and ankles before collecting into a pair of massive crimson wings, the tips barbed and razor-sharp.

TAngel screams and hides behind Angel.
<Finally, someone who gets it!>

The crowd goes wild for Angerus!

"_{Ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow...}"
((Big, enthusiastic crowds are uncomfortably loud even without superpower-induced headaches.))

A voice speaks to Will, Victoria, Lucas, Selina, Yuri/Demons Run and TA!Angel.
It goes by quickly, and it is no stronger than a whisper, but it is distinct.
freeme

((What does Will's power tell him about the voice?))
TAngel shudders.
"Mrs. Demons Run, was that you?"

TAngel, Angel, and Matthew all follow the group to wherever they have gone.

((5 new posts? Pft.))

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on September 18, 2013, 10:22:31 am

Quote from: Tomcost on September 18, 2013, 09:19:14 am

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on September 18, 2013, 09:13:08 am

((People keep calling it a vacuum, but it doesn't act much like one. Nor much like a black hole. I'm hunching that Mydidia is some kind of attractive force, perhaps gravity.))

((It seems to work as an extreme lack of matter in a given point (with unnatural matter levels below 0). If it were a black hole, it wouldn't cease to exist, as it should actually grow. The vacuum also explains why it dissapears: because it has been filled.))

((Hence:))

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on September 18, 2013, 09:13:08 am

((People keep calling it a vacuum, but it doesn't act much like one. Nor much like a black hole. I'm hunching that Mydidia is some kind of attractive force, perhaps gravity.))

((But a kind of attractive force wouldn't make matter dissapear, and also wouldn't dissapear on its own. That's why I say it's a kind of point with a negative matter))

((As to the first: It could easily crush matter similarly to how black holes do, just to a lesser extent and with a lesser mass, so it doesn't go far enough to make a gravitational singularity. As to the second: Why not?
And if it was negative matter, somehow, how would people made of Myxidia not be destroyed when they "absorb" an amount of matter equal to their mass? And while I'm at it, what happens to the matter? The closest thing to that which exists is antimatter; this and any other method of destroying matter would release energy, and this energy release would be obvious.
Further evidence: It is on the same page as the repulsive force and other words which I could classify as "energies".))

Hah ha, bother me.  Who says you're not just giving me ideas?

Are you implying that you don't know what Myxidia is?

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on September 18, 2013, 09:13:08 am

((People keep calling it a vacuum, but it doesn't act much like one. Nor much like a black hole. I'm hunching that Mydidia is some kind of attractive force, perhaps gravity.))

((It seems to work as an extreme lack of matter in a given point (with unnatural matter levels below 0). If it were a black hole, it wouldn't cease to exist, as it should actually grow. The vacuum also explains why it dissapears: because it has been filled.))

((Hence:))

((People keep calling it a vacuum, but it doesn't act much like one. Nor much like a black hole. I'm hunching that Mydidia is some kind of attractive force, perhaps gravity.))

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