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((If a "charge" is what I think it is, that cannon is either almost useless or incredibly powerful.
...Possibly both, actually, when you factor in the Overshot Factor in Utility (OFU).))

((Hey, Kyle couldn't have been a big part of it since he only controls meat.))

Oh right, your carnage was lost in the giant fiery explosions. I forgot that.

Creeping death crystal apocalypse seems far worse than anything any of us could do, aside from Kyle's perhaps. *imagines living flesh landscape* Eugh.
There is also hydrogen apocalypse. That could be bad.

Trust me, any of you could make the world unliveable if you screwed up bad enough.

Or Hey Guys, Have You Ever Wondered What The Atmosphere Looks Like Poisonous And Highly Explosive?))

Well, it wouldn't be very explosive without oxygen. And you wouldn't get to see what it looks like for very long without oxygen.

((Does this technically mean that Kyle would be the dreaded? Ecspeacially if someone noticed the now exploded man he made.))

Well, I don't imagine many people will be bringing this story back. You kinda killed all the queen's men and many of the allies'. You might get some "let's avoid that guy" points with the rest of the army, though.

Bad is a health risk, health risk is a hazard, hazards are dangerous.

Again: HMRC standard.

Might is synonymous with potentially.

That's like saying "ocean is synonymous with pond"--they are synonyms, but they imply different things.

Hmm let me see, how much energy do you think it takes to routinely heat a foot wide sphere by 1000 degrees? Let alone create an artificial dwarf star?

Depends on what's in the sphere. And I would like to point out that your artificial dwarf star thing is misleading, because that's not what happened.
Not to mention that I never denied that manipulators manipulated large amounts of energy. I was just pointing out that they...well...manipulate the energy, rather than create it. Amps amplify the energy, they don't create it.

Something bad might happen also applies to eating old expired foodstuffs that are normally refridgerated, but you know that "might" really means "almost defininately."

...No, it doesn't.

As for it not being routine, you basically put a tiny magical nuclear reactor into an alien device of unknown origin and with no idea how it actually functions. How the fuck is that routine?

That's not the routine part. The routine part is "Something bad might happen". If that's all you have to say about doing something...well...that's pretty true of anything you do IRL, and very true of anything you do IER. It's butt-covering white noise.

Yes computers cant run without electricity, but the electricity aint the thing doing all the calculations.

And the calculations aren't what Grate wanted.

Manipulators run off of bottled space magic...

Then why do they need human presence or expensive automanip equipment? And why are they called "manipulators" if they don't manipulate stuff?

So when someone says "It might rain tomorrow." for you that translates to "It probably won't rain tomorrow."?

Yes. If rain is likely tomorrow, I expect people to say "It'll probably rain tomorrow".

Oh, and there are computers that can work without electricity, if we use the broad term for computer and not the computer = PC.

...which is irrelevant to the analogy we were making.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on April 09, 2014, 10:03:44 am

Quote from: Xantalos on April 09, 2014, 10:00:26 am

((Not mine, at least. Any recreated will have those same properties, and they'll get worse each moment.))

((Not so. Again, it's meta enough that I can just recreate it as it was before you did that crap to it.))

((Just take this to the OOC thread guys))

Alright.

((Nope, as it's meta enough that I can retcon your recreation of it - and I can continue this game of mules for longer than you can.))

Nope, you can't. Especially since I can just retcon whatever you did to it before I actually use it.

(No, don't bother taking it anywhere. Just shut up entirely until you two actually have something to say. That would be preferred.)

I'd like to make just one more point.

((It's a meta enough thing that it's as easy to undo all that as to do it.))

((Let's stick to this for now.))

Void is the opposite of Creation. That's not a different wavelength; either it's the opposite phase, or it's a completely different kind of wave.

And if that was the case, just use another Creation magic source out of phase with the bracelet.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on April 09, 2014, 09:02:49 am

The magical signatures aren't the light sources themselves. Continuing the analogy, when the light in the double-slit experiment overlapped and destructively interfered, were the light sources affected?

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We obviously need to get someone to come in and mediate this shit, because I'm arguing that since Creation and Void are polar opposites, overlapping the spells like that would destroy both of them, whereas you're arguing that they won't.

My logic is basically that magical items and whatnot are basically like campfires one roasts marshmallows over. You can do work with them, and you can see them, but those things are related to different processes--and you can cook marshmallows while hiding the fire (in theory; in practice, you'd probably get your marshmallow-roasting privileges before you could even set it up).