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It's close to the second.

I don't think Tactical Persuasion would work any better than normal now that the Wisps are convinced we're insane (and attacked already). Unless you can provide some kind of idea of an argument that will succeed, and proof that freeform would go for Tactical Persuasion, I'm going to -1 that.

Create time and causality.

Take the challenge. Prepare to bug out the arena while eating everything.

Wait would gold and Jewels survive you know a village burning down? and besides it look like in this kingdom slavery is rare or frowned on so why take prisoners?

1. Hard to get them from under the rubble and ashes, assuming the heat didn't make the gold deform. Which it probably would.
2. Who said anything about slavery? We take them to a place where they can't harm anyone, have them become valuable citizens of the kingdom, and maybe get a little information out of them. Things like, "Where is your homeland?" and "Could you teach me your language?"

What is a "Day"? Rotational periods vary greatly from world to world.

As for the future, -1 to attempting to recruit Proxxy. My reasons for this:

• It probably won't work. The only reason we were able to recruit Riltia at the beginning was due to her having no clue that she is a Sibling and therefore should be working for Oric and trying to kill Ciro. It's possible she still has no clue.
• Proxxy is powerful. If we want to have a snowball's chance of killing her, we will need to strike quickly. We need to get an attack in first. Attempting diplomacy will just open up ourselves to an attack.
• We are supposed to kill Proxxy. If we want to advance in the story, we'll need to do what we're meant to do: kill Siblings. Proxxy is hostile towards us, and will try to kill us. We need to kill her first. In the words of Captain Malcolm Reynolds, "If someone tries to kill you, you kill them right back."

As an implication of #3, like I stated earlier, we will need to kill Riltia at some point, too. Not yet, because she's useful and friendly. But if she stops being either one of those, we should consider actually doing what the angel statues told us.

1. I'm uncertain. We have an excellent reference, and Proxxy strikes me as a reasonable--almost neutral--Sibling.
2. I'm not convinced this is a factor. Especially since pretty much every enemy has given us at least one free Diplomacy attempt.
3. We were supposed to kill Riltia, remember? It was a specifically-given Quest.

Quote from: Mego on July 08, 2013, 09:54:12 pm

• If we fail to recruit her, she will get the first attack. The risk is too much. And what makes you think we'll be fighting just her? It's more likely she'll have a Searchbot or two with her.

Your other questionable arguments aside, if one round is so great a risk we can't try a different strategy than "shoot it and hope the dice love us" then we shouldn't be in the fight in the first place, because that's not how this game works.

Agreed.
Especially since recruiting Proxxy would take a much shorter order of "The dice love us"...

May leaving Proxxy at low HP increase the chances of "persuading" her then?

I'd prefer saving "shotgun diplomacy" for a last resort, and to follow it up by earning Proxxy's trust. To do otherwise is inviting vengeance...


Oh, and -1 to "Tactical Persuasion". Aside from that just leading to 100% failures instead of 99% failures, if it works, it won't work because it's tactical combat.

Who/What?

Mages in dungeons without companions? I hope this doesn't end badly.

There aren't any monsters in this "dungeon," companions would just slow us down and trigger traps.

Wouldn't it be easier to enchant the glasses to throw light backwards in time?

...Probably! It wouldn't be that hard--a couple of temporal portals behind the lenses and bound to the frames!
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