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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on April 03, 2014, 08:02:31 pm

Quote from: WhitiusOpus on April 03, 2014, 07:28:00 pm

Most laws of physics only apply to the present/near-future, though, and are subject to change.

Not true, not true, not true. Name one law of physics that got overturned in any meaningful way in the last century or two.

If you read the article I've linked, it talks about the so called "law" of thermodynamics, and it's relation to universal entropy, and how there is no possible way for our universe to exist in a way we can comprehend while also following the current stated laws. It creates a paradox, basically. I could explain it more fully, if you want, but the article cover is it better than I.

Another "law" of its time proposed by Einstein was that of the cosmological constant. A theory which, basically, states that all cosmological entities remain an exact distance from each other, never pulling away or coming closer. The problem with this, of course, is the "Big Bang" theory. Again, the article covers it better than me. You may say "But wait! You just said it was both a theory and a law! Those contradict, idiot!" To which I say, you're right. Except that "Theory" was regarded as complete truth until 1997 ( I believe, I may be wrong on the date, but within 30 years).

The fish teleports out of Will's hand. A small top hat materializes on its head and a cane appears in its fin. The fish starts to dance, a truly humorous act considering it's a fish.

((Check my last post again. Had a gateway error while I was typing and it apparently posted it :/ (If that isn't allowed then imagine a smaller version of the image.)))

"I refuse to free them. As soon as they saw me arrive they quickly tried to become allies with my prisoners here. So I froze them as well. I figured Seham would enjoy killing them." Sen shapeshifts back into her human looking form.

Bartimaeus shapeshifts into an exact copy of Meme and starts to walk around.

Fine. KYLE GIVES UP BECAUSE THE DEMONS HAVE MAGIC NOPE POWERS AND THE PERSON RUNNING THE TURNS PURPOSELY NOT RUNNING THEM RIGHT FOR HIS STUPID FUCKING BOSS.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on April 03, 2014, 08:11:16 pm

Quote from: Unholy_Pariah on April 03, 2014, 05:12:22 pm

Is it just me, or is team E completely screwed?

I wouldn't worry too much. Within a minute or two anyone not wearing a space suit should be incapacitated. Overall, I'd say they're better-than-average.

I opened one door and turned two UWM personell into chunky pasta sauce, what is opening all the doors gonna do?

We research Science Tech, getting us more scientific technology, to get more science to turn into more technology. It's a pleasant cycle.
First, let's design a science return landing pod.


_{The Jeb's Delight Science Tower. Now a sub-assembly.}

Now, a rocket to carry this thing to orbit for testing!


_{Can we build it? Yes we can!
Should we build it? Prob'ly not!}

Luckily, we have enough boosters. More luckily, problems of a rocket-kasploding type do not immediately develop! The booster stacks seem to be shaking up and down slightly, but it's like a pixel tops. Enough to scare me, not enough that it'll break everything. We drift a few degrees westwardly, but ejecting the solid boosters at 6,700 meters means we have more than enough gimbal to fix that--literally. Unfortunately, we're still rolling a bit annoyingly. I almost miss my gravity turn, fidgeting with stuff. I begin the orbital insertion burn before I exit the atmosphere, remembering my previous...fun with LV-909's. I pull the periapsis almost out of atmosphere, then set up a maneuver node.


_{Ah, maneuver nodes. I shudder to think what KSP would be without them.}

One more quick burn, and I'm in a decently high orbit (142/140). Let's see if we can't get some good, LKO science.

I do some calculations. We have a 6.67-ton vessel and 258 units of fuel. With an LV-909, that's...how heavy is liquid fuel? 5 kg/unit? And oxidizer, which is...316 units is equally dense? That's 574 units of stuff, meaning 2870 kilograms of fuel. Times the ISP of 390 m/s and divided by the mass of 6,670 kilograms, and we have about 167.8 m/s of Δv left. Probably. I try to make a maneuver which takes us high, brings us low (into atmosphere), and hopefully lets us take high-above-Kerbin science without screwing up our ability to return. In the end, I give up, and instead decide to land on the South Pole. I can't burn that much, so I instead settle for some kind of other rare-to-land-in biome, like land.


<sub>If this works, it'll be the first time I landed where I meant to in history! Unless "Kerbin" counts.

We went around an extra orbit, just for the pretty pictures!

And another picture.

Look at how well I'm not leaving them to drift endlessly in space until they kill themselves!</sub>

Despite going through an almost-140-meters-per-second burn, I still have 237 units of fuel left! Aw, man...

I prepare for landing.


_{Goodbye, rocket!}

Things may not go quite as intended.


<sub>The red arrow is approximately the direction I'm moving. I'm not sure where I'll land, to be blunt.

...Now I'm pretty sure it'll be in water.

Using the "pointy part of the flame" rule, we're definitely overshooting that islandy peninsulaey thing.

Bad parachutes! Bad! Point us the other way!

Why is it not letting us point the other way? (SAS eventually helps.)</sub>

Much to my pleasure, the lander doesn't fall apart when the parachute deploys. I am even more pleased when the water doesn't smash stuff. Now then, what kind of Science did we get?



_...Wow...

Alright. Once more, we have a chance to learn stuff. What are our options?

• Advanced Rocketry: Bigger fuel tanks and more powerful engines. 45 Science.
• Electrics: Inline batteries, solar panels, and lights. 90 Science.
• Flight Control: Reaction wheels, winglets, the Stayputnik, the Mark One Cockpit, fairings, and MechJeb. 45 Science.
  
  • General Construction: Struts, LSEs, tri-couplers, and a couple variant decouplers that I sometimes have a use for. 45 Science.
  • Landing: Landing gear (aka rocket car wheels) and landing struts.
    
    • Science Exploration: Ladders, thermometers, oversized science labs. 90 Science.
    Jeb, Bill, and Meleny stand by their previous suggestions. Bob advises Science Exploration for thermometers or Electrics for extended missions, and Archibald wants Landing because, quote, "rocket cars sound awesome".
    Director GreatWyrmGold wants to cover the Kerbal biomes as early as possible to get as much Science as possible for later things, so he suggests that Landing could be helpful, but the reaction wheels from Flight Control would be good, too.
    
    Alright. What'll it be? We can get two cheap ones or one of the expensive ones.

SCIENCE FOR THE SCIENCE GOD. ROCKETS FOR THE ROCKET THRONE.

Kyle casts the one herd hitting attack again as he runs off.

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Meme slowly gets more and more annoyed at the trout being unable to be eaten. She tries to pick it up and put it in the oven after about 6 attempts so she can cook it... or something.

Meme is really frustrated with this fish! She tries to use her claws and cut it up to eat!

"What's it look like you inferior demon? I wish to change sides and I brough prisoners. Take me to Seham now." Sen looks angry, "Or should I devour you and have a different demon take me?" To further stress the 'take me to your leader' demand, Sen shapeshifts into a large, genderless demon/dragon