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Einsteinian Roulette / Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« on: April 02, 2014, 09:26:48 am »Point to where you've given an explanation as to what makes the changes a clone experiences different from the ones the "real" person experiences.Quote from: GWGPossibly. Or, it's possible that you've never explained it. I'm leaning towards the latter.Yes we have. You just disagree with all our explanations. We don't. Therefore, there must be something in our heads that ticks to a different tempo. *shrug*
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No. You're ignoring what you're quoting again.Ah. My bad.
I said "completely ceasing to function". In this instance, the thing that is the person is the function of the brain, not the brain itself. If you completely break the brain, then rebuild it with the same cells, the person's "different". If you slowly replace all the cells with quantum supercomputers without ever turning it off, it's the same person. Hell, replace them with a planet sized computer that uses terrified goblins as transistors. Still the same guy if you never shut him off or change him too much (a different way of changing who it is).
Well, here's a question. How do you determine "continuity of brain function"? After all, the clone's brain will also be as convinced as to the continuity of its function. Think of it like the Game of Life. The brain acts in certain ways, largely because of the initial starting conditions. However, you can't tell if the game started two turns ago or 50 turns ago. So...Alright, let me put it another way. Why does "continuity of brain function" matter so much? It doesn't actually affect anything.
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You really haven't. You've basically said "The clone is a different person because of the changes he's experienced, so he's a different person from the original."Quote from: GWGWhy? Why is the second inherently so different from the first? You've been saying they are, but you've never said why.I have said why they're different many times.
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Define "different person". What seperates two people?Differences in their minds. Person A has a certain set of experiences, memories, skills, personality traits, etc. Person B has a different set of the same.
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Eh, I mindlessly believe in a lot of stuff I can't logically prove. For example: why is happiness good?Why is life good? Why is stealing bad? A few things, we just need to have as axioms.
Or, put it another way: A lack of happiness leads to depression, which decreases productivity and ability to philosophize, as well as leading to a higher probability of suicide and hence preventing them from doing anything.
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