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Einsteinian Roulette / Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« on: April 02, 2014, 09:26:48 am »
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Possibly. Or, it's possible that you've never explained it. I'm leaning towards the latter.
Yes we have.  You just disagree with all our explanations.  We don't.  Therefore, there must be something in our heads that ticks to a different tempo.  *shrug*
Point to where you've given an explanation as to what makes the changes a clone experiences different from the ones the "real" person experiences.

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No.  You're ignoring what you're quoting again.
I said "completely ceasing to function".  In this instance, the thing that is the person is the function of the brain, not the brain itself.  If you completely break the brain, then rebuild it with the same cells, the person's "different".  If you slowly replace all the cells with quantum supercomputers without ever turning it off, it's the same person.  Hell, replace them with a planet sized computer that uses terrified goblins as transistors.  Still the same guy if you never shut him off or change him too much (a different way of changing who it is :P).
Ah. My bad.
Well, here's a question. How do you determine "continuity of brain function"? After all, the clone's brain will also be as convinced as to the continuity of its function. Think of it like the Game of Life. The brain acts in certain ways, largely because of the initial starting conditions. However, you can't tell if the game started two turns ago or 50 turns ago. So...Alright, let me put it another way. Why does "continuity of brain function" matter so much? It doesn't actually affect anything.

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Why? Why is the second inherently so different from the first? You've been saying they are, but you've never said why.
I have said why they're different many times.
You really haven't. You've basically said "The clone is a different person because of the changes he's experienced, so he's a different person from the original."

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Define "different person".   What seperates two people?
Differences in their minds. Person A has a certain set of experiences, memories, skills, personality traits, etc. Person B has a different set of the same.

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Eh, I mindlessly believe in a lot of stuff I can't logically prove.  For example: why is happiness good?
Why is life good? Why is stealing bad? A few things, we just need to have as axioms.
Or, put it another way: A lack of happiness leads to depression, which decreases productivity and ability to philosophize, as well as leading to a higher probability of suicide and hence preventing them from doing anything.

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RESET! The rules are changing. And a few details may be lost--I hope not.

REPLACE TALONISWOLF'S INSULIN WITH KNIVES
[2]
You start to, then realize that he probably needs that insulin. Knives won't cause the body to absorb glucose, they'll cause it to leak blood! You begin to rethink your life.

SHOOT UNIVERSE WITH HEALING IMPLOSION. IT IS NOW HEAL.
[1]
The universe is now imploding.

Eat Birdy's liver.
[5]
Ew. Liver.
...Why does everyone say liver tastes bad, anyways? I've never had any.

Sit out my timeout.
...
I'm not gonna roll for this.

Turn slap-fight into elaborate dance, clutch a rose with my teeth!
[1]
You step on the other person's foot. The dancer's palm hits the GrizzlyAdamz in the forehead, shattering the skull, shoving the skull through the brain, and tearing apart the brain!
The GrizzlyAdamz has been struck down.

Attempt to fly away, thus protecting my liver from ground based enemies.
[1]
You fly into a conveniently-shaped rock that cuts out your liver before blazing glory eats it.

Wait, you're giving up already? Or are you not giving up the reins? I'ze confuse.
Not giving up the reins.
Yes, I realize I already replied to this, but I also just noticed how my statement was ambiguous.
Anyways, want to play?

MAKE ALL ROLLS USE RANDOM TYPES OF DICE
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Dude. Not cool. Especially since you didn't specify a system for how the random dice rules would work.

Stop messing with the rules and play the game.

Take over everyone's Pancreas via rapidly spreading plague, and take over by threatening to make alcohol impotent.
The ultimate threat on Bay12? Threaten the booze stockpile.
Edit: Forgot a whole word somehow.
One action per turn, please.
[1]
You infest your pancreas with the Bubonic Plague!

Attack this guy stop him from destroying the booze its the only thing keeping us from wreaking the universe...again... you know I've lost count how many times we've done that now
[5v2] You bite TalonisWolf! You do not get infected with plague! He loses the use of one of his feet!
You feel kinda bad for biting a sick guy!

Summon knife elemental. Make him stabbity everything except me.
[1] The knife elemental decides it doesn't want to listen to you any more and stabbities you.

Respawn.
[1]
You were evidently mean to Ganesh in your last life (you don't understand how Hinduism works), so you become a flea.

Assist All of GWG's True Allies in their actions while attempting to alter the Ragnorok by Killing Fenrir before Odin Dies.
[6] You kill Fenrir. This causes Odin to try and aid Thor, which surprises him, causing both to die to Jormugandr before Thor can kill it.

Oops.

Summon A potato for everyone to stop all this fighting.
[6]
You summon the A-Potato, which seems to be a potato with the powers of the A-Team! You attempt to activate it, but discover it instead has the powers of an A-Bomb.

((Remind the GM that since I rolled a [||||||] last turn, every roll result must be represented with a meter rather than a number))
A lot got changed when this switched GMs. That's one of the casualties.

Achieve victory.
[6]
You're winner! New Game! Back to Level 0.

TITLE UPDATED
Yes.
Yes, it is.

Use Chaos Power to create a supermassive black hole whose strength is relative to the power of the Chaos Meter which begins destroying the entire universe, adding power to the Chaos Meter!
Btw, I am immune to it's pull.


You all had better I hope I fuck up here somehow.
[5]
Oh screw you.

Turn another player into an AI
[1] You are now an AI character.



NPCs:

Quote from: Clone Troopers
Shoot the giant snake thing!
[4-1][2-1][5-1]
You shoot Jormugandr, hitting one eye, scratching its flank, and killing a bunch of you.

Quote from: Elsa
Create an Ice Castle.
[6] You can't help but freak out at the everything. The universe starts freezing.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold
Reduce the chaos of the universe.
[3] -1 Chaos



Spoiler: Universal Stats (click to show/hide)

Characters:
Spoiler: Allies of GWG (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Hostile Things (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: In Time-Out (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Victims (click to show/hide)

Alright. That looks good.
If I made a mistake, point to proof that the mistake was made and I'll give you a +1 to your next action.

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"No reason"?

Well...consider Seham's knowledge of these people. He's pretty sure they want revenge, especially since they didn't try to contact him before just entering his territory. And, of course, they showed up armed and prepared for combat.

I'd say they've got a good reason to fight.

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I'm amused by Kyle trying to appeal to the better nature of demons.

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"Aren't you all so heroic? Attacking someone who has done anything violent. I haven't even made a move and you're beating me. You should be ashamed of your selves for attacking a noncombatant. And you call yourselves soldiers."
Kyle says in a scolding tone.
"You must think we're idiots if you expect that to work. Besides, we've pinned you. Now, are you going to come quietly, or do you need us to quiet you."

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Roll To Dodge / Re: Gunfight in the Saloon (Round 2)
« on: April 02, 2014, 08:34:47 am »
Luke, regardless of the two dudes in the front of the store, you can't just cower at the back because 'I MIGHT GET HURT'.
Yes he can. He's proving it to you.

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Roll To Dodge / Re: Roll To Medium: Worlds Apart [Chapter Two]
« on: April 02, 2014, 08:30:59 am »
Um...great.

Order the iguanas to stay here and protect him. Try to find the other guy.

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Einsteinian Roulette / Re: Einsteinian Roulette OOC
« on: April 02, 2014, 08:29:54 am »
At least, that's my opinion.  Kri might be different.  I am kinda arguing in their place.
Kri stated a different opinion, which I was pointing out was kinda silly.

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And why is that? What makes you you? Why do the clones' changes make it not-you, but your changes--which are not inherently more or less changing than the clone's--leave you you?
Hmm.  I'm pretty sure this has been stated every possible way by now.  I'm beginning to think our minds simply work differently.
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Possibly. Or, it's possible that you've never explained it. I'm leaning towards the latter.

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Actually, there's one more way to put it: the idea is, a creature 'dying' (brain completely ceasing to function) causes it to no longer be that creaure.  It has ended.  Died.  You can make a copy, but it isn't the same creature.  It's a different thing experiencing stuff.
So, you're with the "continuity of brain" thing.
Did you know that your brain also replaces its bits? Not as much as other parts of the body, certainly, but it does.

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I'll say again, for all logical intents and purposes, there is no difference between the critters.  They are the same thing.  But from an emotional/philosophical PoV, the first has died, and the second is a mimic.
Why? Why is the second inherently so different from the first? You've been saying they are, but you've never said why.

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...Which is?
Because the clones still die.  They're just replaced by a different clone.  A clone which is a clone of the original branch no less, so this argument is irrelevant to whether or not he's immortal.
Only if you consider clones to be completely different people, which is an argument no one has been able to maintain without basically saying "they're different because it's a different body/brain/whatever!"

Grate's been whistling every time someone mentioned the manipulator battery incident for months now...
Nope. Only me.
So if you need to take your vengeance, you'll need to come to me.

If GWG wants to be smug and annoying he can fend for himself.
I'm willing to do this, but if you drag Grate into this I will make a string of characters who are even more annoying than whistling 24/7. And I will whistle at everything just to annoy you.
You have been warned.

He then proceeded to do so and his player ended up being a bit too smug and annoying for his own good.
So why are you punishing Grate?

Nah, it's just kinda funny how boasting backfires on occasion.
...How is the whistling boasting?

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Hephaestus is just layers upon layers of subterranean infrastructure
So, we're basically sitting on Phyrexia? Minus the hordes of quasimagical metallic horrorterrors, but I think the Doktor is quite well enough equipped to remedy that.
He seems more like the "quasimagical fleshy horrorterror" kind of guy.

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Einsteinian Roulette / Re: Einsteinian Roulette
« on: April 02, 2014, 08:21:04 am »
If you happen to see small children being tossed out the airlock/being beaten to a pulp/eaten, don't worry, they deserve it.
No, he doesn't.
He'll come back, though. And then he'll tell Jim!

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"Oh no. You're attacking me. Whatever shall I do."
Kyle says completely deadpan.
More people attacking him, then. The humans are trying to mob Kyle and basically hold him in place, while the demons are using various magic.
[32+5v8+11][48+5v48+11-2][1+5v22+11-4][48+5v5+11-6][5+5v33+11-7]
[15+15v25+11-1][48+15v19+11-3][38+15v29+11-5]
Much more successful this time. A few soldiers screw up, but most manage to help pin Kyle.
[9+15+10v31+15][49+15+10v8+15][21+15+10v15+15]
Kyle takes a total of 67 more damage. His hit points are at 385. He is also pinned under a bunch of people who don't like him.

Loki...'vanishes', before (MAG stat: 15) several Lokis appear, all looking exactly the same.

Andras tears open a portal, summoning (MAG stat: 17) a minor demon (all stats: 14) .  He then (MAG stat: 17) hurls a fireball at a nearby enemy while the demon assists by stabbing a nearby enemy with its sword.
Andras loses one charge of Summon Minor Demon.
ICARUS sticks with Sens plan. Since she has no soul yet, binding spells like that don't bother her much.

<Well, go right ahead. I trust you, afterall your contract with Yuri forbids you from actually betraying us like that.>
Pretty sure that's everyone.
Luna attempts to freeze all of them in place, or cause them extreme pain, with soul magic.
((Taking the risk as the RNG God. Lets hope this works.))
Conny glares at the demons and rapidly shoots 5 light orbs at the demons.
Sen uses her binding Spell on her allies (minus Kyle, Loki, and Andras)! Don't worry, This is part of Sen's ultimate plan.
Alright.
Luna: [36+20-22v3+15] Luna manages to freeze the demons.
Conny: [24+20-8][14+20-8v1+15] Conny scorches the demons well with her light, dealing...oh...40 damage to each.
Sen: Sen binds Conny, ICARUS, and Luna. Soully. ...Whatever that does.
Loki: Several illusions are present! The demons ignore them.
Andras: A demon is summoned! Between summoning sickness and the "one major action per turn" rule, nothing else happens.
ICARUS: ICARUS is bound! I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds incapacitating.

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GWG for combat against mass numbers of low-grade enemies, like the humans Kyle is currently fighting, I'd suggest mass combat rules in a swarm system
To be fair, I'm doing that a little.

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str = 5/10/15 +number of enemies/numbers of enemiesx1.5/number of enemiesx/2
dex = 5/10/15 +number of enemies/numbers of enemiesx1.5/number of enemiesx/2 when attacking, however no bonus when defending
end = 5/10/15
mag = 5/10/15 +number of enemies/numbers of enemiesx1.5/number of enemiesx/2 (if they attack magicaly)
mind = 5/10/15
Eh...

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The Lakers knew the end was coming. They had to act now, or forever be the weakest.

Harvest 100.

Conquer 116, 128.

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*surprised nobody brought up the date I posted that on*
...?

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And if ffs doesn't want us to keep retrying until we get something we like, he shouldn't give us crappy weapons.
In your proposed scenario, 200d1 is far from being a 'crappy weapon'.
It's a random number I chose. I don't think we're ever going to have a weapon capable of dealing damage in the multiple dozens (except on opponents weak to that kind of damage), let alone hundreds.

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Alright. I think I'll wait for other opinions before deleting the universe, though.

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