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It's not my system, its your proposed patch to my system. I recall that some number was added to the difference. I can't remember what the number was for the life of me.

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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on April 01, 2014, 09:54:00 pm

I never asked if it was a different car, I asked if it was made of different parts. And since Kriyella's claim was basically "The clone is made of different parts, so it isn't me," Theseus's paradox applies. Regardless of the exact transition point, by the end the car is made of different parts, and by Kriyella's argument is different. Since the human body also replaces its parts, Kri's argument means that you die several times in your life.

Basically...context is key. As are the last few words.

And chalk that up to a reading comprehension failure on my part. In my defense, it is a Theseus's paradox until the last... 4 words.

I told you those words were key.
And yeah, I was trying to evoke that kind of argument, to point out that Kriyella's argument implies said paradox pretty heavily.

So Grate's brain is a car now. This is some fascinating stuff.

It's an analogy.
The car, not the brain.

How in the world did someone gain reflexive reincarnation anyhow?

Well, Grate got squished under a rock, and someone came up with the idea to use vaguely-undefined quantum stuff STEPHEN HAWKING can do to revive him. piecewise said it would work on a five, and that...other things would happen on a 1 or a 6. We rolled a six.
Eventually, I got control of Grate back.

*shoots you in the face with an intelligence-boosting gun*
*predictably, nothing happens _{because you're too smart as it is}*

Thank you.

((Kyle is wearing power armor and takes halved damage regardless so I think him taking zero damage is kind of fitting. And also, this is why we use the D100.))

1. Has it occurred to you that games are a little less fun when you can literally ignore massively superior numbers of enemies who aren't OP?
2. We're using the d50 so that stats mean something.

Also, wonder if they float.

I've heard they sink.

in a very low (0m) orbit of Kerbin?

If it's not floating, it would be more than zero meters.

What, the skillset of "somehow got ahold of a book with all demons' true names in them"?

True, but you died in bits and pieces.  You never ceased to be.

If what makes you is the collection of atoms or whatever that make up your body, then you're dying bit by bit.
Look at it this way: If you take apart a car bit by bit, and replace every part with a piece that is fundamentally different, do you have a car made from different parts?

'Kay.  Why not say 'Grate's death thing' or any of the other nonambiguous terms?  There's only one big thing that involves Grate's death in particular, so there's no question what you're talking about.  With a rose, all it's obvious traits are shared by other things.  With Grate's respawns?  You can use any number of terms, and there's no ambiguity.  Hell, we've been discussing it without being confused as to what the other person is referring to even once.

You're not exactly arguing against the need to find a term...

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Then why can't the clone change without being considered not you?

The clone is it's own entity.  Regardless of whether or not it diverges from you, it's technically not you.

And why is that? What makes you you? Why do the clones' changes make it not-you, but your changes--which are not inherently more or less changing than the clone's--leave you you?

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...Isn't that basically what Grate does?

Yurp.  But I consider him not-immortal for a different reason.

...Which is?