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"Wallstreet contracts. Like a better version of demonic contracts.""I know what they are, idiot. I just don't know what you're suggesting them for."
"Or make a deal with a Wallstreet entity.""...Huh?"
Aedan is near Will.
Solution: Wait a turn between Bloodshaping and Arena-ing. If it's a 200d1 weapon or something, we can resorb and reshape another.QuoteI think we can do better and kill him in one turn. What we need to do is use almost all of Ciro's MHP and MSP to bloodshape a ridiculously powerful weapon. Like a gatling-rocket-launcher-with-a-chainsaw-bayonet-chucks. Have Al tank with his bulwark, knight rubric, and met hat. Give cherish the weapon, and she can beat Horologe in a single turn. Maybe 2 if we're unlucky.That is banking a lot on the abilities of an unkown weapon we might not actually be able to Bloodshape, and may not actually work (FFS will probably make it xd1 or something else completely useless half the time, with the useless half including the fight against Horologe).
The whole point of the Savepoint shenanigans is that Ciro will be at max stats during the fight. Or rather, her old max stats. And she has the highest stats currently in the party.And Bloodshaping one (or more?) powerful pieces of equipment changes this...how?
<I don't want to be bound to Alucard's soul forever, I want to return to the void where I can be free. I'm already immortal, but that won't matter if I'm in hell.><Mm. Well, without knowing more about the binding, I can't tell you anything you don't already know.>
Bartimaeus takes in a deep breath before speaking.<First, it's "Alucard and my souls." Well, not me my, but you know what I mean.>
"Alucard and I's souls are linked together in a strange linkage between creation and void, and if he dies then I'll go to hell with him. I don't want to go to hell. I want to go back to the void when he dies. The only way for that to happen is if he sold his soul to a void entity where his soul will be destroyed inside the soul mill, where I'll either be free or get destroyed along with him. I'd rather cease my own existence then go to hell, where no void entity belongs. Demons belong to hell, and I'm no demon. Alucard doesn't want to sell his soul, causing a severance in our relationship. I'm scared Rose; I'm scared of going to hell."
"We have existed since this world began, long before you giants."<Oh, I'm sure.>
If you're still alive, you didn't die, you just got killed.Immortality isn't about not dying, it's about remaining alive.Grate isn't so much immortal as...well he's something else.Does he die?
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Hm...
Grate has quantum immortality. He both dies and remains living, like a pair of possible timelines merging, and his loss of memory is the universe's attempt to reconcile the paradox by using the original point of divergence.Know of any other characters with quantum immortality?
Why are you all arguing over grate being immortal? He obviously only possesses quantum reincarnation.He lives eternally.
If immortality is eternal life and reincarnation requires you first to die, how then can grate be immortal?
Yeah, whatever Grate is, he's not immortal in a way I would ever want to be.Barring unforseen difficulties, I don't see why. I mean, losing your memory would be a pain I guess, but it's better than nothing.
True i suppose, but if we stick to traditional definitions then is not immortality a single eternal life and reincarnation numerous new lives of limited span?Correct, it is not so.
Consider cloning complete with mental imprinting, can that truly be considered a form of immortality?...How is a clone with your memories and mind not you? How do you define "you"? I define it by the mind, not the specific collection of molecules that make up my body. By that definition, everyone dies a couple times a month.
If you die and a clone takes your place then your memories and personality would not be lost, but the clone is not you and you would still be dead.
(in which case, we are all immortal by the laws of thermodynamics. Our energy will never cease to exist, therefore we are all immortal. Disregarding all the people who owned our energy before us, and who will own our energy after us)Strawman argument.
But much like a copy of a work is not exactly the same as the original (and is certainly not exactly the same as the person that wrote it), the copy of Grate is not quite the same Grate as the one that died.Once upon the time, this was the case. Now, however, we have the ability to create works which are, in fact, exact copies, down to the last line, letter, bit, or bump. And no one's going to claim that a specific copy of, say, Crime and Punishment isn't really Crime and Punishment just because it's not the original manuscript.
