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What's wrong with Sailor Moon poses?Bonus points for a Charlies Angels pose style picture.
Two requests for the Trope Page:
1. A link in the OP.
2. A Fan/Playerart contest to see who can make the best Trope Picture for the Trope Page. Probably a group picture of the whole team, like I suggested a while back.
Added a character page, along with Maria, Selina and Kyle.Should normal and magical forms be separate or combined?
I guess if you can eat pizza you presumably have genitals....I can't decide if I want to sig this or not.
Live and learn.Revel in the madness we have created.We all contributed by making the game what it is, you guys just know all the tropes and i now know why Maria was saying Moe over and over earlier!
He look at The swordman "Don't recognize, what the name of the fairy?" Swordman asks."Her name's Conny. She's nice.
It's a synonym for trekking through tough terrain.Even in death, Slog is a main character.Who's Slog?
Uhm guys, Slog is canned. Put in a bus, whatever.Dead.
Or, just ask Al how Ciro was revived, you know. No need to wate soul charge.
+1If we go oversoul, we can bring people back from the dead.Where's that stand-up-and-slap-onto-ground GIF?
I say we kill Al and Riltia when we find them to go oversoul and bring Slog back.
I believe we are agreed on this.Actually I meant 'before' as 'try smuggling with supplies first as an alternative plan to burning everything'. I am not all that fond of plan fire in general.QuoteI have though of something we might investigate before just setting fire to the town and hoping for the best though. Food and supplies need to get into the castle somehow, so it might be worthwhile to check whether we can make use of our small size to smuggle ourself into the castle.Why does everything end with Bay12 trying to burn everything?
This isn't that setting, or at least it doesn't apply to us.Someone who works with demons has a choice. Someone who was born a demon didn't.In some settings, certain types of beings are Always Chaotic Evil.
In many settings, a significant number of people think that certain types of beings are Always Chaotic Evil.We'll prove them wrong.
If the adventurers know we are significantly demonic (quite likely) and consider demons to be Always Chaotic Evil (fairly likely considering the harm they seem to be attempting to do to the amulet) they will consider us an enemy by definition.Unless...we show them otherwise.
Simple: No vivisection, and one more step and one more transit we can escape during.Assuming they do take us to a 'competent' researcher, there is still no guarantee of non-vivisection.
Why?QuoteKilling adventurersTo be fair, I am suggesting a fair deal of killing, albeit indirectly.
...I really hate when GMs leave vital tidbits like that uncertain. Shouldn't the familiar be somewhat familiar with what the Master does?QuoteDealing with demons?Is that inherently evil? Is he dealing, or studying?
Another thing left unclear. On that note, how close is close enough? And how long do we need to be that close? Would sitting on the sorceress's bedroom window for five minutes each night be enough?QuoteDoesn't the amulet's power to save us require us to have it?I think it was more of a 'we have to be really close to it'. It was in our master's possession after all.
Isn't threatening to keep it away if we don't behave pointless if they keep it away regardless?
France allied with the colonies in the American Revolutionary War. Germany allied with Italy in WWII. In the cold war, both sides made many alliances with much weaker nations.QuoteNot their lapdog, their ally. That is the plan with the highest chance of not dying, whether due to amulet withdrawal or angering a bunch of pretty powerful adventurers.The power'd be too disproportionate to be called an alliance.
Or justness...QuoteFirst off, my point still doesn't require any of that, just an adventurer with a soft spot and two with souls (or that the one is the leader/strong enough to keep the other/s in line). That's all.The way the GM described it at the beginning, our master wasn't really that horrible of a guy. Kind of an asshole, but not evil. Plus these adventurers sure are good at looting, (implying greed), and just listen to that guy's name, "Isilev the Just"; that just trumpets doucheyness.
Think: Would you allow a potentially powerful potential ally with a sad past onto your team, or would you chuck him out due to his old owner who he didn't have any overt affections for, thereby creating a new enemy who could easily become more powerful? (Moderately experienced or learned* adventurers would be familiar with this possibility.)
*As in "listen to old tales told by bards", not as in "read lots of books".
Sad past? We wallowed in a gold pile, were fed, (honey & raw meat! not cheap), mana'd & possibly doted on by our master, (something of a prideful moment, our creation was likely), and the only negative was having to sit through his boring & sometimes humiliating lectures.I was referring to the claim I'd suggested about us being an unwillingly-corrupted creature without a choice in the matter.
So, if we join them, we'll be deceiving them about our 'sad past' in order to get near the amulet.Not entirely. It wasn't our choice to be made, and it wasn't our choice to be part-demon. The only fib is in the origin of our soul, and I'd be willing to drop that in the name of compromise.
Assuming we told them a tale of sadness- we could just stay neutralThe sob story would certainly help, though.
AssumingEven if he is one of the adventurers (was this ever stated?) and is such a zealot, he's got two friends who hopefully keep him in line. Just like almost every single zealoty hero in fiction.they aren'tIsilev the Just isn't a zealot.
This'd be an interesting turn of events if we were playing as the adventurers.Indeed.
But playing as the dragon, we won't have a say in where we go or what we do. Pilgrimage to the draconic-ruled beastman civ of the north? Not likely. But hey, the GM might be able to do something creative, so...if it works out I can see it being fun. But that's a nasty if, especially if Mr. Lurker gets bored.You know how we get a say? Prove to be valuable to the party's efforts.
I doubt it.QuoteAnd we could steal it back later, like we would have to by your plan anyways.We might be able to steal it back now.
They already know we need it. We haven't exactly succeeded at a low profile...
And we'd still have to tail them, which could lead to all sorts of fun. Oh, and the sorceress lady's experimenting with it.Both of those are true regardless of our choices.
They don't know we need it, we have kept a low profile.That requires ignorance on the adventurer's part of how familiars work, failure to learn anything from the experiments, and pretending the whole High Profile trait (and the ripples we're making with our powers and such, inexplicable and probably connected by some pattern we can't see from our hyperoptic position) doesn't exist.
To summarize...allying with the adventurers means they kill/enslave their new pal, and setting fire to the town will work and will, rather than destroying the amulet or covering it in rubble or causing its bearers to flee, put it in our grasp. Oh, yeah, and we want to prove everyone who hates demons right.QuoteRemind me, which plan was that?Firing the town.
And why was it a good idea?-snip-
He never would, and that was only the most obvious example. Besides, if Alfred was a small magical dragon, I'm sure Batman would take him on enough of his atrols and whatnot to make being him interesting.QuoteI fail to see why this would inevitably lead to us being subservient to the adventurers.Alfred could quit. And do we want to play the Alfred to the adventuring party's batman?
Also, Alfred and Batman. Servant and master, yet friends and allies.
[/quote]QuoteWhy not?I suspect it's just a difference of opinion...
Just as a note, the amulet and our distance from it are not nessecairy for our survival. It's just that if we don't get our hands on it in 3 months (or was it weeks), we will come under the current's owners control. At that point, the link will be restablished and we will get our manaflow in order. If we get it ourselves, we can restore our manaflow too.Well, according to Grizzly, our freedom is pretty important and becoming the "lapdog" of the sorceress is worse than death...and, anyways, she's kinda messing with it.
Okay, since we can't do anything right now without scapheap, I decided to do more backstory.That's actually four paragraphs.
Why Selina likes girls: (warning, 3 paragraphs)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RiseOfTheMagicGirlsGood, someone already made the redirect.
Knock yourselves out. It's blank, for now.
@harbingerAgreed.
I wouldn't say we're evil. Just misunderstood. We're a juvenile dragon with a critical weakness growing up in a hostile world of monkeys.
New replies! Edit/response incoming.Aw man.
a. This seems to be what many people are assuming we're doing, which is what I was referring to.2. Our goals are "Get the amulet, not die". The adventurers should be able to realize that. There's no real reason for us to kill them. Why does everyone else seem to want to do so, anyways? It's not like Master showed any kind of affection for us.We don't, really, we're just saying they're going to expect us to. Familiar, remember?
Someone who works with demons has a choice. Someone who was born a demon didn't.3. Not heretic, evil. In any case, being willing to work with goblins shows that they are willing to work with stereotypically evil beings, which is good for us. And I'm not implying that close-minded groups can't be good at what they do, I'm stating that they'd be worse (and, in most fantasy worlds, atypical).What makes you think he's evil, apart from working with demons, which would paint us as just as evil?
We can't exactly defeat the adventurers without a lot more power, and trickery pretty much requires more illusive power. Power requires amulet, key behind door.And if we don't try, we end up dead anyways.Well, yes, assuming that we say "well, we can't befriend the adventurers, I guess we'll just have to give up, curl up, and shrivel up.
They don't have to.And the worst that happens? We escape when it turns out they're untrustworthy.... Yes, because they'll totally just let us get away.
Glide. Walk. Whatever.
Why did we do those, anyways?We may be demonic, but that doesn't mean we are Evil in our behavior.Perhaps not, but we are anyway (see: attempting to cause riot, shoplifting).
First off, they have different names. Second off, devil has never been mentioned as a synonym for demon. Third off, I've never seen a setting where they were the same thing.And demon =/= devil.In this setting? How do you know that?
This may not be relevant, but Canberra is, well, lets say sparse. There are more derogatory terms that have been used, but it basically boils down to Canberra existing because none of the important cities could agree on who would be the capital......Interesting?
Theory: Everyone hates Nuriel.Eh, we all know Matt's actually a sadist with mind control, and that's how he'll get his harem in the end.We could do some theory crafting. We have the main plot from scap, as well as the sub one from Elf to dismantle.
Theres also the problem that we need scap to start the fight.Indeed. That's just reoccurring to me.
