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Since you assume the worst, you do not accept the truth. And no, that is not the contingency.
Since I assume the worst, there's no way I'm going to be helping you, and I'll probably hinder the plan. Unless you're better at gambits than Xanatos, this can only hurt you. And I'm not the only one who distrusts you, just the most vocal.

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If you have read my country's stats, you know that we take safety very seriously, to the point where we enforce culling. If we were to be infected, we would simply kill everyone with the disease along with everyone around them.
And this is yet another reason not to trust them. They'd rather kill everyone than lose.

Well plan B then. Nuke them from orbit!
It's the only way to be sure.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Leaders of a burning World (ICC)
« on: April 19, 2013, 05:04:27 pm »
"It seemed to be accepted by everyone; it wasn't official, but it was...ah, screw it.

"I move to the previous question. To clarify, the non-aggression pact one."

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To the DUNGEON. Ask workers why two of them can't work together to carry a block. Having never had to work with someone else to move a heavy object up several flights of stairs, this seems like a reasonable question to us.
Indeed. Two or three workers working together should be able to move a block easily.

If there's just this guy and the strongman, though, there's a good excuse.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: The Runaway Act I
« on: April 19, 2013, 05:01:50 pm »
"No. I'm visiting my aunt; she wasn't at home, so I decided to come here."

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« on: April 19, 2013, 05:00:43 pm »
My main complaints are that I don't support attacking unprovoked and that I had expected more...radical content from the first sentence, not just details.
The radical content is the speed. Speed makes much of it work, and you can't rely on any of this working after time has passed. It is not supplementary to a slow cautious approach.
Oh, I see now.
Still, you had built my expectations up a fair bit with that first sentence. I was expecting something crazy enough to work...and got "what we're doing, but a bit different."
On the bright side, it means we're probably on the right track.

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Owen is not officially the Count except by his own proclamation and de facto residence in the keep. He has yet to have his fealty accepted and he is known as a potential murderer. This is not rebellion against a true lord. If anyone continues to view this as a rebellion where we are to be faulted, let him state the reasons that Owen has legitimacy. An accepted vow? The love and acclaim of the people? An untarnished reputation for justice? He's de facto Count only because he is in Curbiston with supporters.
True, but is this enough reason to invade? If nothing else, he is acting Count, and if we up and invade we'll be seen as power-hungry traitors likely as not. Unless we can claim we were manipulated by someone, perhaps...but that's not much better.
Until we can provide justification to invade, I don't feel that we should invade. That's my general policy on invasions.

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Now, if we wait for all those things that satisfy legal requirements, there's a larger chance that Owen finds other powerful allies outside the city which is filled with dissent. He brings those inside. The guards are changed. Everything that you suppose is a supplement to the plan of moving slowly is suddenly voided by, say, Count Zander finding a political advantage in backing his old household knight and sending reinforcements from his county. After a certain critical mass of outside help, standing behind them with swords drawn, even wobbly insiders will stand firm.
Which is why we don't dawdle with our peaceful and non-rebellious-looking methods of securing Arthur's position.

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...If he's coming to us, either he has an exquisite sense of justice, or his office is being removed or rumours of such are floating. Without his old office, his other holdings may classify him as just a minor knight. Or he may have large holdings outside the city. Unknown.
Hm...

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In any case, this war becomes his now. The former marshal leading the claim is far better than us being out in front. And he keeps his office. We say something like, "I have this boy in my keeping, true, but I have been waiting for someone of rank and importance with a sense of justice to seek him out. If you come to lead his claim, I pledge the full support and co-operation of my town and its soldiers to dispose of as you will, Lord Marshal."  This is regardless whether we move fast or slow.
If we can make it so we can blame our actions on Uriel, I suppose we could do the invasion thing. I can't really think of anything that would stand up to basic scrutiny, however.

This is fantastic luck! I'll bet a lot of the guard is more loyal to Uriel Lope than to Sir Owen, since he's been the one leading them through thick and thin over several years, while Sir Owen just got there a couple months ago.
Well, yeah.

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We should move now! If Uriel found out about the bastard, chances are Owen will soon, if he hasn't already.
I believe that this is essentially agreed on; the main bone of contention is how violent our advance will be.

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Get anyone together we have on our side and march on Folesden. See if Uriel can arrange for the gates to be open and the guards to welcome us in. If they're loyal to Uriel, maybe we can get the majority of them to surrender or even join us without any major fighting! Even if that doesn't happen, the defense will be unorganized now that the marshal is gone, and Owen doesn't really know the city well. I'll bet Uriel can point us to a weakness.
Aside from marching, I'm fine with this. Which means that until I'm convinced we should march, I disagree with most of this. When we do...well, this could work.

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They probably still don't know what we are ultimately keeping secret.
A plan.
That's all we know, but what more do we need to know? We're going to assume the worst, most likely--I know I am. Or the Sky Lords are.

The New Order has contingencies prepared for that...
What, blast off and optionally nuke them from orbit?

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Leaders of a burning World (ICC)
« on: April 19, 2013, 04:57:26 pm »
"What's Khan's Revenge? I must have missed that memo."

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(I'm a little confused about my status, I'll need an explanation before I can post my next action. By Einhanded do you mean I lost a hand? Do I teleport now? Does "crippling immunity" mean an immunity that cripples or an immunity to crippling? Sorry for asking twice, I just want to make sure I don't accidentally skip a turn.)
(Um...Einhanded means you have one hand, but then I remembered your teleportation thingy and you didn't lose a hand. Same with unconsciousness. And as for the crippling immunity...um...what the heck DID I mean? Um...I'll just reroll. You're dyslexic. Wait, I think that might have been what I meant. Somehow.)

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Well, he's trying to kill us, so it's moot for now.

Remove a kobold limb with our Unidentified SwordTM.

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You haven't told us ANYTHING. That's why we don't trust you.

Are you not even allowed to so much as hint at the Plan if doing so prevents the Plan from being destroyed?

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Lordship: A Suggestion Game
« on: April 19, 2013, 04:41:20 pm »
To battle? Only if we have to, or there's some requirement that a noble see battle before taking office or something. Too much of a risk of a stray arrow, catapult stone, or assassin finding him, and no real benefit I can see.
He should be seen on the field, amongst his people. Let them know that he is not afraid of getting his hands dirty. Keep him mostly away from the thick of it, though. No front lines for him.
I dunno...at best he's seen as leading from the back while others do the dirty work of commanding troops and fighting, at worst he dies. Not sure how much there is to gain, frankly.
I'm saying "Not sure X" a lot, aren't I?

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Not sure about meeting him in person, but aye.
My thought there was that just recently people were talking about meeting him in person to get synchronized and whatnot. We never actually did that, so this seems as good a time as any.
I thought we had met with him when we paid him?

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Not war-war...conflict preparations?
I find it hard to believe that we will avoid open battle. Thus, I think that battle is what we should be focused on. Any battle preparations we have increase the likelihood of him noticing that he's outmatched and surrendering, anyway.
It's possible that war is inevitable, but I don't want us to be seen as the instigator. We certainly shouldn't be focusing on military buildup while peace is still an option.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Leaders of a burning World (ICC)'
« on: April 19, 2013, 04:38:15 pm »
As an example, nuclear warheads contain an easily accessible source of quality nuclear power.
"I'm no nuke scientist, but A. isn't that a different kind of plutonium you need? and B. Why does it need to be in a warhead, then?"

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The warheads also provide insight into new venues of research by our scientists.
"Such as? What happens when you drop a nuke on Florida?"

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Threats are everywhere. Treacherous humans, imposters, temperature, pollution, predators, there are endless threats to humanity around us. The Great Plan will end this.
"If you wanted me to think you didn't want to nuke everything, you're doing a cr--bad job of doing so."

Again, the New Order has no wish to use nuclear warheads except in self-defense. However, we will not simply throw away possibly useful resources. Why would we wish to cause the destruction of humanity when our mission is to save it?
"Um, wouldn't that aim be better served by not leaving nuclear warheads in untrustworthy hands?"

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: A Beginner's Guide: Purged
« on: April 19, 2013, 04:34:38 pm »
Hm. A hot-plate...sounds like a good idea. Let's try making the plate hot! [25,19] You do quite well. The plate grows very warm, and seems to have a little dial on the edge. Between the heat and the fact that you can't fit the plate and the Hot Plate into the same inventory space anymore, you drop the Hot Plate. Seems like you might find a container useful...

You're kinda hungry, so you decide to cook the meat.
[21-5] The meat is a bit blackened on the outside and cold on the inside, but it's edible. Now to make a sandwich, which you decide means "put the beige meat between two slices of bread and eat it". (+5 Nutrition, +2 Protein, +1 Vitamins) Healthy! You vomit. Again. Other than that, you feel good--you've even purged the last of the Toxicality! Now for some art...


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You don't feel more creative. Go figure.

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Good start, good start.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Leaders of a burning World (ICC)
« on: April 19, 2013, 04:14:15 pm »
"What possible use could a nuclear warhead have outside of war, and what 'threats' are you imagining this Plan would counter? Say, that's a good idea...thanks, Bill."

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Roll To Dodge / Re: ROLL TO DODGE THE LAW X: Law of Revolution
« on: April 19, 2013, 04:13:06 pm »
Respawn as a revolutionary leader among demons.

Determine both the status of my self and of any revolution among demons.

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