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[We found an optional boss, already, so soon?

There are non-optional bosses?

Check the map for the nearest settlement and check to make sure it's there.

If so, send my most charismatic and attractive of my servants to enter town and seduce the town's leader as planned.
If not, check map and repeat.

"I know right! That's what's so amazing about this bile: For some reason my meddling with the monkey has turned it into an acid! That's just another reason why it's so great that I forgot to mention!"

"Right...care to prove that? I find that quite improbable, unless you're subverting the purpose of bile."

I'm going to say it again: mental poison can save our life

How is it better at that than anything else?

and also help us to take over other people's bodies.

Why is this the most important thing?

Also: -1 to initiation rituals, we need followers, we should make it easy to convert them, not dissuade them with rituals.

Not complex rituals, more like...well, sorta like when the President is sworn in or something.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on April 17, 2013, 06:59:53 am

However, if we make rumors, as we will, do you really think that Owen will only look in our lands for the claimant?

Probably. We're the only obvious antagonist...

Since this seems the core of your argument, I'll hack at it.
Why do you think Owen will think we don't have friends we could send him to? If I was Owen, I'd consider the possibility that Stone sent his claimant, should he exist, somewhere else and wouldn't limit my search (or else I'd have an advisor who would do so).

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On the other hand, we can't protect Arthur if he's away.

Not needing protection is better than protecting him where he is likely to need a lot of protection indeed.

But why doesn't he need protection?

There's also the unspoken matter that most of you are purely relying on an extension of the main character armour to help us keep Arthur safe in Feroshire. I guess we can forget surprise and subtlety after all.

No, I'm relying on keeping the reality of the claimant more secret, Feroshire's defenses, and so forth. And the fact that there's already suspicions that Owen will attack us, which gives us the ability to send back investigations into our land searching for the claimant much more justifiably than if we needed to keep the secret in someone else's lands.


The simple issue is, Owen isn't the old Count; we can't assume he's a moron. If he's not, we can't assume he'll limit his search to Feroshire. If we stash him in Percival's land or somewhere, we can't keep an eye off him or justify sending the inevitable investigations away.

I'd rather not risk the chance of us getting detected. No one cares about a beggar or a blind man wandering through the streets, but you see a colourful cloud floating about?
I want us to have eyes everywhere and the poor and homeless right now are the best net to cast.

Agreed.

Mark of Carnifex and Empowering Presence.

Agreed.

There should still be initiation rituals, but they should instead be set up to encourage the spread of corruption. Not an act of cruelty, but an act of conversion. New members must successfully tempt others into succumbing to one of the deadly sins; the more creative and definitive the temptation, the greater the status bestowed.

Not so sure...I'd rather have initiations be more ritualistic, you know? Since they're rituals? Maybe a little mutation on the side?

"So you want me to ignore a head trying to kill me because I might kill the murderer?"

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on April 16, 2013, 07:59:22 pm

It may be putting all our eggs in one basket, but getting a second one may attract the...fox? Do foxes eat eggs?

The fox already had plans to invade this hen house. Why would we expect Feroshire not to get scrutiny when ill news comes of a hidden claimant? It's not that I really think Owen is a shrewd fox of a spymaster--he hasn't had time to set down those roots even if he had the aptitude--but Feroshire is so utterly obvious a place to look next. If we want Owen to march on Feroshire in early spring, keeping Arthur here is a good way to instigate it. We can't pretend that this place is low-key, and that Owen won;t send some people asking questions.

He may be planning to invade, but at least we can protect our claimant if we keep him in Feroshire.

Right now, Owen suspects nothing, there's no ill gossip to connect the dots, and this young boy is just passing through our lands. He'll be forgotten by mid-December. And no one would ever suspect a low-key rural knight like Percival of harbouring the next Count. He's our close friend and backed us several other times, and it's time to entrust him with a major part in this plot.

However, if we make rumors, as we will, do you really think that Owen will only look in our lands for the claimant?

Quote from: jaass on April 16, 2013, 09:13:31 pm

Send the Rangers out, tell them to map/look out for good ambush spots or where a army is most likely travel through.

+1, although I'd hope for it to be unnecessary.

Agreed.

Also, Arthur poses a larger threat to the wannabe Count than us. Sending him somewhere else will force the Count to divert forces to his location first. We can then decide how we can support him best.

On the other hand, we can't protect Arthur if he's away.

Also, I dunno if the Rat is someone who does inperson meetings.

Haven't we done one with him?