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Continue following mech.

You do. [6] It trips.

Look around to see if there's anything different.

Not that you can tell.

MOAR NATURE.

[2] Nope. You flop on the ground in irritation, and someone with no limbs rolls over and bites your ear!

An elf?
HUMP TREES

...You do. [2] And you get splinters.

ROLL OVER TO VORTHON
EAT VORTHON

[5] You do the first [4-1v3] and nibble on the second.

If you want to call me Judge Udil, feel free to do so.

No. You're not even worth the title of Judge Judy.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on March 05, 2013, 08:10:55 am

Quote from: Azthor on March 05, 2013, 06:07:30 am

My character got transformed into the God of Chaos.

When did this happen?

Refer to the quote below:

Quote from: Ghazkull on March 04, 2013, 06:41:09 pm

The Universe seemed to shudder for a moment and reality itself seemed to unravel as Udil Dragonslayer opened the Gates to the Anghinwar. An Aura of Madness seemed to emanate from the very gates of the prison as finally Aodun burst forth.
Weakened and yet transformed, the former Elder God of Order had turned into the Younger God of Chaos. Starved and bereft of its very essence, the Phoenix had lost much of it's former Glory. But the very fires from which it consisted burned has hot and as bright as ever.

Ah.

Its called "obey or die" policy. I have the jail keys too, so its my job to keep a leash on you all.

So...what part of "warden" implies "judge, jury, executioner, lawmaker, and policeman"?
Not to mention that you probably will be losing your job soon, since not only did you free the jail's only prisoner, but you made him worse and more destructive while doing so. It's like if someone freed the Lex Luthor, but made him omnicidal and superpowered.
No offense, Azthor. Aodun's mostly a good guy, except for the good-Overgod-killing part.

Who shall Udil kill next? Sabt Golgo, or the OverGod?
Only time will tell.

Probably a couple of mortals trying to reach godhood.

Quote from: anailater on March 05, 2013, 02:57:28 am

Quote from: Furtuka on March 04, 2013, 11:51:57 pm

"The mechanic has a new boyfriend"

+1 Mwuahaha.

lol

This does sound hilarious.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on March 04, 2013, 11:34:13 pm

1. No Rule of Law, but the king won't like it if the Count goes off and kills one of his knights; if he doesn't do anything about this flagrant breech of law, he loses face. And the king has a bigger army than the Count.

Vaguely-remembered knights are a dime a dozen.

Knights aren't soldiers, they're nobles who happen to be useful in war.
Killing a noble is a serious offense.

Flagrant breech? So the whole country watches the 11 o'clock news each night? The disappearance of a small-time knight gets passed by word-of-mouth, if it interests enough people in other regions. I was not aware that we had made a name for ourselves kingdom-wide. The question here is not royal. It does not cause the king to lose face, because no one cares about us outside of our immediate neighbor.

Except...you know...we're more well-known than a random knight, because of our unique history and unique governing strategies and new minerals. And, you know, our friends would make a stink, because they already suspect the Count of plotting to murder us.

This is local, and it's about local power relationships and manpower... not laws. The Duke can't move just because a favorite of his niece went missing. Kings didn't do that for their own favorites being outright killed! You march on an established noble family for something weak as a recently elevated peasant disappearing, and every other established noble will become uneasy. Most of these noble families have had their lands for centuries and you need to get rid of this idea that the Count will be "demoted" by "rule of law" or something. It'll go to another family member if he's stripped of his title, since no other noble family wants the hereditary status-quo being disturbed. Unless the king is extremely strong-willed and personally enraged. The king probably isn't, and definitely won't be.

Let me explain a few things...
1. Leaders who let people violate their laws without so much as taking action look weak.
2. Leaders who look weak tend to lose their ability to affect the world, not to mention their honor.
3. Kings don't like either of those, and therefore will probably act once the king is informed by, say, the uncle of our fiancee about our death and the various reasons to suspect the Count.
4. Killing a noble is a pretty serious offense. Killing us wouldn't be as bad as killing, say, the Duke or King, but it would be pretty bad, even without Marna.
5. Losing his power is something the Count doesn't want, and it's probably one of the lesser punishments that would be administered.
6. The Count doesn't have anything to gain by killing us so blatantly.

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2. Putting that aside, why don't you work your way back to the actual question for which I brought up police officers?

You ask me, "how do police officers do it?" Okay. If they live where you probably do, they probably ring the doorbell, and get the reply "Hello, officer, is there something I can help you with?" Then they politely ask you to go in for questioning. You realize that fighting them yourself is impossible, and that your neighbors believe strongly in rule of law and won't help you.
Down in Oakland, CA, maybe the police don't go at all. Maybe they go and get nowhere with people that don't respect their authority. Maybe they get shot at by thugs that just don't like cops.
And that's in a country with otherwise strong notions of law, and police that haven't upset the local strongman. Now, since I've been so kind, in return answer me this: how do police do it in Somalia?

Okay, first off, you didn't answer the actual question. I asked how police officers transport criminals, not how they capture them.
Second off, the "nice" thing about the middle ages is that random people are much less likely to have lethal weapons.
Third off, we're not worried about random citizens attacking us; you're worried about the Count attacking us. Sure, his forces could probably overwhelm ours...but could they defeat the entire rest of the kingdom? No. So if it comes down to the people who support us (who now have the law on our side) against those who support the Count (just his closest friends and such), the odds are very much in our favor.

Yeah, just a note. If the count could afford to dissappear us before, he can afford to dissappear us and a piece of paper now.

If the count could afford to disappear us and a piece of paper, not to mention the men we're bringing with us to help restrain the prisoner and whatnot, why wouldn't he have disappeared us before?

The count's spymaster being brought in and talking will make quite more the event than even our dying.

Perhaps, but the spy talking and revealing everything (including his dealings with the Count) are lower than the chance of the king reacting to the death of a noble.

Our writ, that great bastion of the law though it may well be, also happens to show that we have enough dirt on the wool merchant to concern the Duke, which means there's every reason to suspect the dirt is enough to make him confess everything and sell out the Count in exchange for his life, which means the repercussions of our murder somewhere en route to the Duke are a much more distant worry than numerous dirty dealings coming to light that are far less ambiguous in ultimate consequences than a missing boy-toy of the Duke's niece.

Actually, it just means the merchant broke a law. For all that anyone not fairly familiar with the case knows, it could just be that the merchant forgot to pay taxes.

Again, reference to Gaveston. Feudalism directly implies weak central authority. A fig for your "obstruction of law" and he wouldn't be the first lord to not give a damn about his superiors. I think you'd be moderately amused to read about the writs and summonses that the Percy family ignored in their feuds with the Nevilles.

That "weak central authority" has access to a much larger army than the Count...

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on March 04, 2013, 10:48:56 pm

Loot chunks of adventurer. Search for nondangerous exits.

you know that all you'll get from it would be steel lingerie and a steel longsword, plus whatever wasn't cut to ribbons?

So? I'm going to go all NetHack and take anything not nailed down in case it eventually comes in handy.

DEMOTION! LOL! POLICE OFFICER! LAW AND ORDER!

...

Some barons in England grabbed Piers Gaveston, the favorite courtier of King Edward II, and killed him. The old rumor was that they did it with a hot poker in the bum. The king couldn't do shit to them in retaliation. Later, one of them, Thomas of Lancaster, became an official with great power in the government. Finally, years later, after Thomas had made sufficient powerful enemies among the barons, specifically the Despenser family, he too got executed. No demotions! His holding went to his younger brother Henry.
Why don't you try pretending you're in a feudal society without police officers, demotions, or strong rule of law? It could be fun.

1. No Rule of Law, but the king won't like it if the Count goes off and kills one of his knights; if he doesn't do anything about this flagrant breech of law, he loses face. And the king has a bigger army than the Count.
2. Putting that aside, why don't you work your way back to the actual question for which I brought up police officers?