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I've claimed the buckler and given the axe to Nerjin's character.

Remember I'm in this game.

Behead some goblins.

Not the lasers themselves, no.

I'm not intending to pick new gear until I know a little more about the mission.

Y'know what? I'd like to nominate my own RTD

You can do that?!?

I see nothing horribly wrong with the system. Any problems will be revealed only by testing the system.

I like taking Marna on a river cruise.
The blast furnace sounds neat, if we can and may build it.
Speeches sound like a good idea.
We haven't been neglecting our mediatory duties, have we?

Finally, incognito is one word.

2. "better" is a relative word, and without more knowledge the 'better' margin could be very thin indeed. thus more knowledge.

Let me add the word "much" before "better," as there's a pretty high chance that the elves or humans would try to kill us and next to no chance of stumbling on some goblins.

-what would the dwarves think of fratricide?

Probably not much if not justified.

-hmm, went through and tried to find mention, only saw they were more likely to take on hydras. (not trying to argue here)

That means they do.
That means it's possible for us to get worshiped by dwarves. Or at the very least, respected.

3.They're bronze-age, based on the sneaking arts, and their priests seem well-spoken. I figure they'd be able to handle it and it would be very valuable to have more info, maybe even a map? (hinthintnudgenudge)

The worries are that they would get found by passing elves/humans/dwarves/whatever and killed, or at best come back and report that they did not stumble into any goblins.

4. That's my best guess involving why your answer,

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If the GM would force us into an inexplicable abstraction present in DF and not even allow us obvious ways out (e.g, break the cage), I don't know if I'd want to play this anyways.

would be contiguous to my argument

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Not everything is DF, but until we know what isn't DF we should be wary of things which would be incredibly dangerous to us if it is, in fact, DF. Things like invincible 1-size-fits-all invisible cage traps which are so copious that mentioning that a dwarven fortress has them is practically redundant.
What would we gain by ignoring this? I'm thinking about when we first show up, not if they have a change of heart after we've established ourselves. We haven't ordered any scouts yet, and we wouldn't want to show up only to be caged before we speak to them.

[spoiler]In my argument I had a few points:
1. This thread's universe could be DF's universe
2. There are things in DF's universe that would pose a major threat to us
3. We lose nothing by anticipating these potential dangers.

Well...
1. Except the GM said it's not.
2. True, but that's so in any universe.
3. Cage traps are something you simply can't prepare for. Any random spot in the wilderness could have a dwarven fortress, any spot in the dwarven fortress could have a cage trap. All we could do is send a bunch of cultists ahead of us to trigger the traps.

So what I think your argument was is "we don't need to worry about those contingencies because the universe they're based in is lousy." But all you actually said was 'that universe is lousy'.

What I said was, it would be "lousy" GMing to give us a Game Over[supTM[/sup for exploring a dwarven settlement for some BS reason like "Invisible, Unavoidable Cage Trap with Indestructible Quantum Space Cages."

By itself that seemed a non-sequitur/opinion, thus my consternation. My reply was why the contingency should still be worried about. In further response: much fun can be had through these unlogical mechanics, and such mechanics don't make the GM evil nor cruel, (see elves of amanareli). At least not in/of themselves.

Well, if you'll notice...
1. That game was rather comedic.
2. The caging did not happen to the PC.

Hmm, tails/legs would be better. (mass-creation exploit ftw)
How would this set us above an ally, or perhaps a beloved pet?...which they perpetually eat... (if we even get that far..)

There's something called "humor" I use sometimes...

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ps, did you get my edit about dealing with greek city-states?
pps, I edit constantly to conserve space and try to refine my message..

No.

Remind me, where's the Greek city-states?

How much do we have and how much is it per person?