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Surprise "update"! Happy...Saint Patrick's Eve? Definitely the last update until I get my charging cord.

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Yep. Sorry to cut this short, but--shocker--my battery is dying.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on March 15, 2014, 09:47:54 pm

Theoretically, I suppose. Somewhere or another, though, I've proved that we can't simultaneously do everything with shenanigans rolls.

Obviously that means we need to do a shenanigans roll to discredit or circumvent your proof

I'm pretty sure that's impossible. I'd have to check.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on March 15, 2014, 08:20:22 pm

Quote from: Empiricist on March 15, 2014, 05:15:51 pm

We still call cobalt, cobalt even though we know know it has nothing to do with kobolds. We still call atoms, atoms even though we have shown that they are not indivisible. You merely selected cases that support your argument whilst ignoring ones that do not.

The difference? We don't use "cobalt" and "atom" to refer to something other than the metal or the submolecular particle.

Cobalt is based around the idea of kobolds. Atom is based around the idea of being indivisibility.

No, they aren't. They were named for that, but saying they are that is like saying that I am a minor Biblical figure. Or my grandfather, if you look at my middle name.
And, again, "star" is still used to mean what it originally meant. "Cobalt" isn't used to refer to kobolds (which, let's face it, aren't usually referred to by people other than low-level D&D players, DF players, and sometimes those who study ancient Germanic cultures), people never use "atomos" to mean "indivisible," and "star" still refers to what they always did.

The Wall of Stars is based around the idea that it was a bunch of stars.

Again, no it isn't. Especially since--as has been repeatedly stated--they are not stars. Saying that the Wall of Stars is based around the idea that it is a bunch of stars is (slightly) more like saying that I'm based on the idea that I am an ancient saint, and also a girl.

He was referring to the magic world not the entire world. You cannot argue that well against something declared with GM-jurisdiction.
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Did I miss something? When did a "magic world" come into being? Can you name a single magician that wasn't inextricably entangled in the non-magical world? Very nearly every character who has showed up has come from a nonmagical background.

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You are aware that you are resorting to such a juvenile retort when arguing about the specific naming, not the actual lore, the specific naming of stuff inside a game that seems to be primarily comprised of light-hearted LGBT-based RP where the Grim Reaper is an embodiment of economics and taxes, right?

1. Juvenile retort? No, that was an expression of irritation. The juvenile part was Akroma using ad hominem when Elf was calling our argument an argument.
2. It's a "light-hearted LGBT-based RP where the Grim Reaper is an embodiment of economics and taxes" that I've been part of (and adding to the lore of) for months...pretty close to a year now, I think. If I want it to make sense, I will do my best to make it make sense. Besides, what was the point of posting that cosmology if we weren't supposed to point out issues with it?

Theoretically, I suppose. Somewhere or another, though, I've proved that we can't simultaneously do everything with shenanigans rolls.

Any ideas what the next update adds? All I've seen is Danny's video, which involved lots of flailing objects.

Which sounds pretty much like all of his videos.

Suffice to say that he's an actively antagonistic person who believes he can continue to be a complete twat because he has a small following.

Actually it's somewhat worse than not caring - he intentionally rewrote his entire mod from the ground up to be incompatible with almost every other mod because of a ridiculous disagreement with another modded. Basically issued the community as "It's me or everyone else" ultimatum.

Ah.

BUT BACK ON TOPIC: From the sounds of it, 0.24's biggest feature is planned to be contracts. What exactly that means I'm not sure, but it sounds like the mission control mod will be getting some sort of much cooler official replacement. Also there's the thing they're working on alongside NASA, which should come out soon after .24, and add some sort of mission to get an asteroid into kerbin orbit.

Ooh, celestial bodies probably won't be on rails anymore.

The asteroid mission is coming with 0.24, I'm pretty sure, since 0.24 is also getting some larger fuel tanks (!!) and a grappling hook (!!!!!).

I suspect a connection.

Quote from: javierpwn on March 15, 2014, 06:34:54 pm

EDIT:Since we fight with Blood weapons, wouldn't attacking any creature be considered a Blood-Related activity? Which we have a +2 to.

I would assume not. Because using a weapon made of blood isn't really any different at using a weapon made of anything else.
Like we wouldn't expect Al to get a bonus from using a wooden sword due to Nature stat.

We just need to do a Shenanigans roll.

No problem.

To be fair, PW does have a massive amount of stuff to do- between hunting all the posts, getting proper quotes (why?), and all the backround rolls he has to do, the turns probably take a long time already.  Plus, there's only so many ways one can say "You shoot the sod!  His head goes kablooie!"

I believe that that's a big part of the problem.