Bay 12 Games Forum

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yF5Qn1hC-iM#!
This is what fights between the gods will look like.

What is going on.

Just a note; unless Ghaz rules otherwise, my Act made Udil hidden from you lot's prying eyes and senses. No appearing in his head or rumbling beneath his feet, okay? You'd only tormenting him more, the poor child. Can't you see it would be much kinder to leave him to nurture his rage and thirst for vengean... err, love for all things in peace?

Of course I'm sure you can spend an Act to find him, but anyway.

Hopefully my actions resolve before yours.

As well, guys if nothing else think on this: if it turns out we DO need a militia and we don't have one, throiwing one together at that time might be a little late. It's also not like they are going to be drilling 24/7, they can do other things(like they are doing now).

Again, I'm not for disbanding the militia, just not expanding it. (I'm also Pro-Have-Someone-Explain-When-A-Bunch-Of-Infantry-Would-Be-Useful, BTW.)

Edit: You're right, the word militia is probably causing a lot of confusion, since that does imply part-time soldiers. OK, let me lay out what I envisioned for my char, and we'll go from there.
OK, when I made my char, I envisioned him as the head of a small company (~20-30 soldiers) of Colonial Marines assigned to protect the colony(this being a frontier colony and all). In addition to colony protection, the job of a Colonial Marine is to provide recon, a police force, and also act as an engineer corps to help with what needs to be done for the colony to be established. So forget militia and substitute marine company.(of course if 10ebbor is against this I'll do something else).

Okay...seems a bit excessive for a colony under 500, but glad I understand you now.

Now, you were saying that a full-time military is wasteful. I'd like you to really elaborate on why, we don't get anywhere when all I hear is "why do we need it?" without providing reasons we don't(and ignoring the reasons xtank and I DID give as to why we need a small defense force, be it the Marines or a militia)

Aside from their non-combat work (which doesn't need Marine-esque training) and police work, I can see no way that a ground-based military would be useful. Heck, in 2013 it's almost outdated to have infantry, and when anyone who can threaten you can bomb you from orbit (with explosives or a meteorite, doesn't matter much)...

Mutter at it to leave us alone.
Realize it's a giant monster we're eating the tail of.

Okay, now stab it through the eye.

Run.

I have a nice little long-term plan for us:

1. Boost relations with human race.
2. Manipulate humans into disparate, yet similar nations.
3. Ensure all nations are founded on cruelty and oppression. Good rule of thumb; the more the leader is like Stalin, the better.
4. Offer our services as a... dumping ground for political prisoners.
5. Never go hungry again!

Sounds like a nice long-term plan...okay, "nice" is a poor word to describe it...

...Does the RNG even support luck that low?

Ok then GWG, can you explain to me in detail how having a few squads we already have keeping their skills sharp is wasteful of resources and manpower? Has 10ebbor hinted that we are wasting time with a militia?

Why do you think I'm only arguing against spending more time and resources on the militia? An hour a day training or something is fine, making a barracks and stuff for a force that likely won't ever see battle isn't.

Just because you can't fathom how something could be useful now doesn't mean it ISN'T. You keep assuming that if they're not doing anything their skills won't atrophy, which it will, and anyways we need some sort of security/police force and the militia can double as that.

Oh, so the militia is the police? Because you haven't explained a single other use for a ground-based force.

As well, I doubt civilian crews on the railguns would be as effective as military trained crews.

Yes, but artillery is a bit beyond the scope of an average militia...

Well, as to your other question, a space for combat drills is all I'm asking for right now, nothing really complicated(though a dedicated livefire range ight need a few structures, but I'm noy building that atm)

Should be fine. Maybe the structures could be set up later (although if the militiamembers set it up on their own time, I'd be willing to let them have resources to set up post fences or other simple stuff like that).

Would you mind explaining how any conflict we would get into would find a ground-based force useful at all? An artillery-based "militia" doesn't need a live-training place, and I'm not sure a police force does either. Besides, a police force of 10-15% the population is a bit excessive. What is the militia going to be used for?

Wait, "orc problem"? What did I forget?

DUDE WE HAVE A MILITIA GET OVER IT

Seriously, can we just drop this for now? This is starting to get ridiculous

I'm not arguing against a militia*, I'm arguing against wasting resources and manpower on it.
*Although I am still in the dark on how in the Nine Hells it could be useful...

Edit: Ok, if you're objecting to separate quarters as wasteful, I can maybe see your point, though I am going to insist on a dedicated drill area. I can have the barracks become the vehicle bay, and we can use the housing we have for now and reinforce it. BUT NO DISBANDING THE MILITIA GOT IT

What do you mean, "drill area"? Just an area to drill or some structures?