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I missed the "avatar" part. (I knew the Sleep part, you've been doing that since I entered. You're getting pretty good at playing sleeping Dark Gods, by the way.)A: I sleep a turn for every Mighty Act I use, when I sleep I use an avatar.A. Saywha?A: When ever I'm asleep I'm in my avatar mode.When did you get an avatar?Um, you don't seem to like anything I do.I take a nap for a few millennia and you turn my continent into a beacon of life, change my dwarves, and haven't even said hi to my avatar wandering the globe fucking with people.QuoteMy guy isn't even aware that the Overgod is around. How would he know?Quote((Also bear in mind that my guy doesn't much care about what the Overgod thinks.))Harumph!
B: How does the Elder God not know who created the universe, and who has been walking around the entire planet talking to people!?
B. Just because someone created the universe doesn't mean he's still there...and, again, saywha?
B: In my avatar, I've gone across the whole planet playing board games with people. Where have you been man? I'm asleep and I interact with the mortals than you do. Say hi to them, bring them a cake or something.
Then retain the command structure but don't waste resources on anything new until there is a chance it might be helpful....Where would the hostiles come from, that they don't have a ship?Keeping a working military around will serve us well in the future, even if at the moment it seems useless. Any effective military has a functional command structure, discipline, and good training. If the military is disbanded the command structure disappears and will be difficult to re-create when it is again needed. The same goes for discipline and good training. The military needs to be kept around otherwise the discipline will be eroded and skills will be rusty when it comes time to reactivate. The military runs drills in times of peace. They practice. They train and hone their skills. Who's to say that using our troops as an engineering corps won't help keep our troops' skills sharp, their discipline strong, and their command structure ready? Even if they enemy they fight is the environment, they are still learning to fight the enemy. Divvying up the work to squads in order to build roads can be compared to divvying up the objectives on the battlefield. So long as they also get more conventional military drills in, the military ought to be ready for when it is time to expand into the space of our local system.
Explain how a militia would protect us from a spaceship attack. Even if they want to raid, and not destroy, it would make sense that they would stay out of personal-weapon-range and threaten to bomb our settlement if we didn't hand over X. Assuming that a couple hundred people on an isolated desert world has anything worth raiding.
As for defending from space based threats, appropriately sized coilgun or railgun emplacements on the surface ought to provide adequate anti-starship capability until we get our own battle cruisers and things.Again, why does this require a militia?
Dude, if you had objections to having a militia when we first started, why didn't you speak up when I created my character? I've gone through the trouble of creating a militia, getting barracks for it, and training. I'm not just gonna sit back and have you guys disband it as "not needed".I missed that...I'm not perfect, and for me this isn't a high-priority game, so I miss things. (Besides, I thought it was more of a long-term thing, not something to start the moment we reached the planet.)
As well, who the heck said we were surrendering in the first place?Why would the Raiders be landing to collect loot if we didn't surrender?
And as xtank pointed out, you also seem to be assuming we can just reactivate as needed when it just doesn't work that way, since we need command structures and whatnot. If you really want, I can have the militia be like the National Guard: civilian reserves that spend every so often doing military drills when not doing their jobs.Then why give them barracks?
Desides, I'm going to pose this question: say we do disband the military. What is it you want to do with the extra 70 or so personnel(since that seems to be your goal in getting more people doing other things)I dunno, maybe have them build stuff like you're suggesting they would, only a third to half a working day more each day?
A. Saywha?A: When ever I'm asleep I'm in my avatar mode.When did you get an avatar?Um, you don't seem to like anything I do.I take a nap for a few millennia and you turn my continent into a beacon of life, change my dwarves, and haven't even said hi to my avatar wandering the globe fucking with people.QuoteMy guy isn't even aware that the Overgod is around. How would he know?Quote((Also bear in mind that my guy doesn't much care about what the Overgod thinks.))Harumph!
B: How does the Elder God not know who created the universe, and who has been walking around the entire planet talking to people!?
Entry requirements: Remind me of who is and isn't in the Alliance already.Sure, that'd be great.Anyone interested in an alliance, I have a revolver after all...Want to join ours?
I MUST update tonight! MUST! NOT! RUIN! PERFECT! RECORD!
Become The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog[5] You do! +1 bonus on all killing-related rolls!
Fail to get a -2 modifier.Done. [3-1] Sadly, you get eviscerated by a goblin.
Assist Tim in purging the factionalism. Become his loveable yet dim sidekick in the process.Sure.
Create a Team of Evil Counterparts to the Magical Girls Faction[3] You summon Airman Sun (an evil guy with magic), a nice wolf, and a gangster with a shaved head. They are...THE MUNDANE GUYS!
RESPAWN AS KEYSTONE QUARTERMASTER[2] No such luck.
SUMMON MORE FACTION SOLDIERS
Respawn as popcorn. Turn everything into popcorn.[3] You are mundane, inanimate popcorn. Tasty!
Artillery magic strike on the shoes factions.[4] Hurrah! The Shoehorn Palace has been leveled! [1+5-1] The Emperor himself is unharmed!
Proceed to repair the mecha by making it an efficient killing machine.[4] It works! Still clunky.
Respawn as old self.[5] You again lead the Hatlings! [4] You summon DestructoHats, who wreak havoc in the Keystone Kops!
Persuade HatLeader to be my leitenant.
Persuad DestructoHats to destroy the Kops' weapons.
Summon Hatlings
Try to convince the Brotherhood of Steel to join our faction. Gain bonus if applicable.[5] The Brotherhood joins the faction you're in, (checks) the Sane People!
Sacrifice them to the dark gods of country.Which them?
So let the stems breed, and maybe throw in some fortifications on ground-level. Make sure they're things like the Rose Wall or corrupted trees that would help, though.QuoteYeah, pretty much any both of our enemies could annihilate us if they used all/most of their power to do so...but they can't.I don't think they need to. The thing that very nearly wiped us out in the beginning(and probably would've if it wasn't for Grumapapgapagpag) was the result of one village, without anything particularly exotic supporting it. If he really put some serious effort into things, with our current military standing, we could very well crumple like a house of cards. This is why we need one hell of a good set of fortifications, fast, along with the best possible army. We've already got the air covered with the firejackets and the dragons, so all we really need is to further increase our ground forces. Which we can do with ease thanks to the rapidity of our stems/saps breeding.
When did you get an avatar?Um, you don't seem to like anything I do.I take a nap for a few millennia and you turn my continent into a beacon of life, change my dwarves, and haven't even said hi to my avatar wandering the globe fucking with people.
My guy isn't even aware that the Overgod is around. How would he know?Quote((Also bear in mind that my guy doesn't much care about what the Overgod thinks.))Harumph!
GWG, if they want to rob us and not simply blow us up, they'd need to send troops/raiders to the surface to loot everything.Yes, because reneging on the surrender agreement and killing the people they send to pick up the loot isn't a great way to get bombed. What makes you think that everyone needs to be sent to grab it?
Now, I can see that you're saying if raiders come with a ship we're fucked since we can combat ground troops but not orbital ships, which is where the artillery emplacements come in. I'm hoping to eventually upgrade them to full railguns capable of at least limited orbital interception, and maybe even a few surface-to-orbit missile emplacements if we get advanced enough.Fine, fine, but why do we need a militia?
Keep in mind that this is a frontier colony, and help from the central government might be days or even weeks away-if they come at all and don't just write us off(that doesn't even get into how we contact them!). I'd rather not disband the militia on the premise that if raiders come we be fucked anyways, I'd rather go down in a blaze of gloryI'd rather live. And, we're just a frontier colony; why would raiders go to the frontier just to raid whatever crap we have? We don't have much of value; there's more-settled systems where pirates and such can raid, as seen in Salvation. Why would they bother? We don't even have anything worth the jump here.
Regarding sacrifices...Remind me why we need sacrifices?
Surely we shouldn't accept anything alive as a sacrifice, that's murder and don't suit us
But burning expensive inanimate things may be an interesting form of sacrafice to try. Especially if that is some form of expensive art or otherwise valuable item
Lumiscient fungy... It may be useful to make trade tunnel to the dwarves I think we should make to become trading megapower. I'd even support making several moles for the projectI think that's a bit overkill, and I was in support of the original mole!
Really, having roads to different settlements, setuping a market, inviting traders to trade, take a modest tax, is a sure way to become an economical superpower. Also, people tend to travel by roads, being a junction will lead travelers to us, some may decide to worship us... Even if they don't, they will spread the word about usIndeed. Especially if we're one of the few places with roads to dwarven settlements...
New offer for the "after the tournament"Critiques.
1) Grant Eldrick a minor chaos boon, plant mutation one, added to his plant creationAgreed.
2) grant him 4 mages as apprentices\assistants and give them minor plant boons to speed up the education and boost their natural power. Surely if they agree ( I think they'll agree if bring the point that we are going against
3) Grant Azula chaos shield boon (shield that turns hostile elements into unharmful ones)
4) Grant her 4 mages as apprentices and grant them minor fire boons. Same as Eldrick
5) Make several more molesWe only need two or three more, most likely.
6) Start digging (in order of importance)I'd probably reverse the priority, actually. Trade's pretty important, and moats don't help too much without something in them.
a) A moat
b) Some underground farm plots
c) Tunnel to the dwarves, Ask for Uristiel participation to make this a joint project...
This works.Donut, Eldrick, Plant mages and magicless farmers do a massive landscape designing : Assist construction of the chambers\moat\tunnel (mostly spread the fungus, reinforce tunnels), expand the rosebush (or raise several new in new places, especially along the roads), grow wood for the construction (or palisade directly), make our village prettier. Create luminescent fungi. Make new plots and create new crops for them ( I suggest ones that can be processed into a very flammable oil, one that raises darts\arrows\javelins, one that produces rubber, one that produce natural glue and some spice(s) for trade... May combine all that in one or two plants). Almost forgot plant bridges for the moat. And start a grassy road to the Ceres
9) Sometime between Donut should visit the afterlife and just make angels, simple humanoids like one he saw, with Fire\Chaos\Life as sources of the power)Sounds acceptable.
9 ) Fire mages should train and improve numbers of our fire jackets in procces ( Basically they should use firejackets for target practice). Or help in civilian jobs, when fire is needed
11) Other villagers should start building a palisade and permanent market. . Maybe add a moat (moles can spend some time on that, that shoudn't delay the tunnel for long)
12) Save at least 300 mana always
The goal is to upgrade our trade and fortifications, and forget about troop raising for some timeSounds good. Let's hope you're right...
We should be a well defended trade superpower, army will come later. And our current forces are more than adequate to meet any immediate threat ( Maher's attack ten times stronger than the original one, thousands of orcs, 100 justicars, aren't problem for our current army+allies even in open field, and we will not fight in the open field)
Maher will not launch all his forces, because he has other wars goingQuoted for truth.
So, er, it appears he says the roads blocked and we have to take a detour downwards?Unless we run into magma. Then hurry up.
If so let's head downwards
Um, you don't seem to like anything I do. And their skin is scale-like, not actual scales.Of course they wont appreciate it. You're turning them into scaled freaks of nature that make the Overgod cry in his sleep just thinking about them!Wait, wha?He's going to kill you. And I support him because you never accepted my avatar's invitation to tea!Why are people so focused on Udil?Because he's awesome. He's a dwarf. He slew a T. rex by a different name with his bare hands. And he's challenged a god for revenge!
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I imagine Neyravah as someone who really does want to help the dwarves, but doesn't comprehend mortals at all. He expected the dwarves to be glad that their dull barren rock was expanded, covered with jungle, and filled with mighty and marvelous beasts, forgetting that the mortal dwarves would probably die when they saw such beasts. I can't wait to see how the dwarves react to the "blessing" Neyravah gives to them--another example of a blessing which the dwarves likely won't appreciate.
Emberguard dwarves are not affected by fire.The only difference between emberguard and regular dwarves is the fact the emberguard are on fire. And really, regular dwarves are on fire a lot of the time anyway so the Emberguard get a pass.Since no one's claimed it yet, I'll be a takin' that Emberguard off ye' hands Ghaz.That said, what does our Overgod think about my fire dwarves if you are repulsed my the lizard dwarves?
I just drew it out. Will scan and upload at some point. Have had a lot of homework recently, sorry.Cool, and don't apologize.
Incidentally...how do I send orders in?Spoiler: In case we do it like this... (click to show/hide)
Oh, and I'm GreatWyrmGold, not GreatWrymGold.
IIRC the Army Corps of Engineers IS still an army unit(hence it is still military), so call us an engineer unit or a militia, but why are you guys so dead set against having a military?...Where would the hostiles come from, that they don't have a ship?
Ok let me ask you this: how is a militia NOT necessary? Just because this is a primarily desert moon doesn't mean we are safe from hostiles
