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All in favour of trying to make our stems a full blow race, say aye.

Nay.
Make a Stem-like race which is a full race but is visually distinct from our Stems. That way, not only can our villagers tell them apart, other gods won't think we're invading if some emmigrate.

Also anyone in favor of genetically modifying our human followers to breed faster, grow into adulthood faster but also live an overall longer life?

Okay, while we're at it, let's just make them learn faster as well.

Aye if we use volunteers.

Squish everyone in sight

[5] I'll make saves for factions first. [3,2,5,2,4,5] The Heroes take a few casualties; the Sane People and Omnicidalists? take several casualties; and one Villager dies. These casualties are: [2,6] GraveHaunter and the Zombie Majikarp, [1,3,4] tomio, Vorthon, some Alexes, (and [4+3] almost Squidward), Xantalos, and a random villager.

Find a safe hiding point.

[5] You find a nice cave.

Order a magic girl charge on the sane people.

Repel the charge. With a minigun.

The Magical Girls charge! [2v5+1] Corai tries to shoot the Magical Girls, but the bullets suck at accuracy and get magically deflected away from innocent bystanders [1] and at themselves, oops. [6] They dodge, but this disrupts the charge, leaving them feeling foolish.

"I feel so... strange. What is this... feeling."

>SUFFER METAPHYSICAL CRISIS, REFLECTING ON PAST LIFE AND ACTIONS

Oh god. Let's try this out.
You suffer a metaphysical crisis, not reflecting on your past life but reflecting on your actions.
[6] Your head explodes, [3+4] but you don't die.

give myself a -2 modifier

[2] Nope.

Respawn as slightly-unhinged upper-class DF-player.
Summon more elite hatlings.
Burn down and loot the villages using army of elite hatling minions

[4] 7 Elite Hatlings summoned. [3+1v2] The village has been conquered, [2] and burnt. Once you burned it you couldn't loot it. However, the Popcorn Shop's Honor Barriers prevent it from being harmed. The soot makes the walls slightly messy. BWAH HA HA!

Attempt entrance exam for the SPPIAL again.

[2] No idea what that is.

It would be reasonable for me to give up and smash my way through everything, so I'll logic through everything instead.

[6] You now are disallowed from taking physical actions.

BOSS TURN:
Pistachio, depressed about never knowing her mom and having her dad die twice, among other issues, goes goth and [4] becomes a Magical Girl.
Black Mage rests (2/8); the vampire [1] accidentally kills an Alex to pass the time, intending to turn him.
The villagers [6] turn the popcorn shop into a village building.

What does MLK stand for? Just so you don't roll (3) You become a thing of milk

Martin Luther King (Jr.), of course. It's (the celebration of) his birthday today, I figured it would be appropriate.

Quote from: gman8181 on January 21, 2013, 09:31:34 pm

... We're just trying to get them to breed faster, grow up faster and live longer.  Compare that to the other gods and we're a pretty nice guy.

we can probably do these things without messing with their very being, either through an aura, or a blessing, or something along those lines.

Those are more expensive and less permanent.

and except for the growing up faster. they seem pretty okay to me.
my aversion to growing up faster. is that because it implies altering children you can't get true consent.

Okay then.

while you may want the genetic modifications to be rather benign, others might want to go for chaotic warbeasts. and to be honest thats what I was picturing.

Then okay the ones you're okay with and not the ones you're not.

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If we place a soul from our afterlife into a plant person and that plant reproduces, will it's offspring have souls?

interesting question. Doing experiments on the nature of these things makes me somewhat uncomfortable. Perhaps trying to unlock the mysteries of the soul is somehow heretical to me. (note, I am an atheist, and don't believe in the existence of souls IRL)

I'm also an agnostic who doesn't believe in souls. I don't see anything wrong with trying to understand something so important in the game world, though.
G'night.

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"I'm afraid the Empire of Tranquility will cream us if we don't."
"It would improve my worshiper's lives."

These Two sound like valid reasons to me, but the full threat of the Empire hasn't been reveiled to us yet. we have heared about it, but we haven't witnessed or experienced it. when that happens perhaps our responses can become more extreme.

1. It's not extreme to voluntarily alter the offspring of a few women.
2. A handful of Justicars nearly defeated our best warriors. Those Justicars were sent to retrieve a few fugitives. Their total forces (admittedly not all Justicars, but still) number in the millions. Oh, and they're done with the last of the old chaos gods, so we and Krait are probably next.
We have about 50 people, plus a few swarms of firejackets, a hundred Stems and change, some Saps, some miscellaneous powerful beasts, and a few allies who aren't much more powerful than us.

if it would improve the worshipers lives, it really depends on the kinds of modifications, if the followers would like to be changed then thats doable. would they be viewed as freaks by the rest of the world?

Or would they be seen as blessed?

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Quote from: Talvara on Today at 08:49:00 pm
    but it all sounds pretty evil to me.

Why?

This is about borrowing a womb for your experiments, or experimenting on a child in the first place.

If the woman is aware of the issues and consents, I fail to see why it's Evil.
If it's nonconsensual...yeah, problem.

Quote from: gman8181 on January 21, 2013, 09:10:10 pm

I even suggested extending our worshipers' lives and making them unnaturally healthy.  Sounds like a fair trade to me.
As far as Donut's reasoning;  In my mind he wants to improve the lives of his followers and protect them as much as possible and would see altering them to do so as just a natural means to an end.  He wouldn't see it as evil because change and evolution are just an aspect of normal life and he is a god of life and chaos so speeding that along is just in his nature and not really any different from making people into golems, werewolves or snakepeople like our allied chaos god has.  He wouldn't necessarily want to do it against their will though because even though he feels it's the right thing to do, he doesn't want to push his views on others unless absolutely necessary.
But seriously as many other people have pointed out, a lot of gods have modified followers.

what if we rolled a one? would that possibility be acceptable to us? I personally don't think so.

Given the low probability of such horrible failure, the high rewards of success (and the ego Donut's chaotic personality meshes with his other successes with Life to form) probably make it reasonable to him. And us.

another thing, changing your followers to your whims (not saying that you're suggesting that) implies that you'd view them as your playthings.

"To your whims"? Oh, sorry to dare want them to live longer and healthier.

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Grumamajaskdfalgh created the Orcs, if that idiot can so can we

Who said that?

Maher did.
EDIT: Is it odd that I imagine Maher being Irish?
EDIT 2: GM also said that it is possible to make your own full fledged race.

can you get me a link for edit 2?
the 'race gods' might be special and primordial.

Well, we made Saps, didn't we? It shouldn't be too hard (in principle) to turn humans into soulled Buds, or to give souls in the Afterlife to Stems (making Soul Stems), or something.

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Sentience, free will, a soul

Correct on all counts, except that Free Will affects worship proportionally. Little bit of Free Will = 1/4 Mana from that soul. No Free Will of course means zero mana.

And before someone asks, it's not possible to go over 100% Free Will 

Here you go

alright, thanks. I think our interpretations differ. From this (I went back and looked if there was more context) I don't really read that its possible for us to make a full fledged race.
if anything its a maybe.
I really can't imagine us being able to create a soul though. but to be fair I don't recall it being said that we couldn't create a soul either.

I'd imagine that, while it's not easy, it's possible. Races exist; surely they came from somewhere?

The Giant stares at you. He is massive - hundreds of times smaller than the dwarves...

Very big.

"How sad...

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Neyravah returns to the forest. The dwarves of the coast were as they had always been; the dwarves of the savanna had another watching them as they hunted the mighty whipdrakes. Hence, those dwarves of the forest Heyravah had tried so hard to keep alive were going to be his greatest priority.

First, he needed energy. Neyravah taught them methods which would end the suffering of the senile, the crippled, and the otherwise infirm who could no longer help; this was painless and doubled as blood sacrifice. This would give Neyravah more energy.
Then, he showed them ways to turn the bodies of the dead beasts into potent weaponry. Kill a Clawdrake, its teeth and claws make good knives and spears. Kill a Whipdrake, its hide becomes potent armor. Stuff like that.
Then, he encourage the growth of vines and other fruit-bearing plants near the village.
(Most of this is mostly minor, cosmetic stuff. Neyravah won't spend any Acts on these--he shows up in his physical form and transplants fruit vines and stuff if he has to.)
Finally, he asked the dwarves: What do you desire, to be secure and happy?

Also, during the time when Neyravah rested, he flew over the world, visiting other gods' lands to greet the gods and see how and what they were doing.

Alcatraz is a-go!

Let's start planning. I'm going to start with suggestions for:
1. Location
2. Design
3. Staffing
4. Name
Ideally, everyone would pitch in.

Hide. We had nothing to do with that. The zombie jumped of its own volition.