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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on January 16, 2013, 08:13:53 pm

Quote from: Neonivek on January 14, 2013, 08:56:47 pm

Quote from: Manveru Taurënér on January 05, 2013, 01:46:11 pm

Quote from: Novel on January 05, 2013, 12:50:36 pm

Fun is more important here, and smarter ogres are funner. Secondly, realism does not need to be lost for fun. So long as we take that there are magical laws working in conjunction with the real ones, which Toady can shape however he sees fit, it neither breaks the spirit of fantasy or realism, and the aim is to blend both.

Exactly ^^

If we want Semimegabeast quality monsters that work together we can add them.

We don't need to alter creatures to make them tougher.

There is NO reason for semimegabeasts not to work together, though. And many reasons for them to do so.

Actually there is little reason for a Semimegabeast to work together according to how they are set up. They would want as little competition as possible and thus would chase away members of their own species.

Prove it. You can't. There is currently no interaction between semi/megabeasts, because the game hasn't progressed to that point yet.

This is because of their diet and metabolism.
Thus there is a biological instinct to be independent and to fight for independence within the semimegabeasts or a lack of instinct to work together, comming together only to mate and then part ways (if they reproduce at all).
These are fundemental aspects of their biology, not something you can simply write around because "Hey logically if a whole group of semimegabeasts fought together, they would be able to beat people up better" since that would be like saying "hey if Foxes were pack animals instead of pair and solitary they would be able to take down hunting dogs".

Oh? Big omnivores can't get along with each other? Funny thing, that's malarkey. Bigger animals with more limited diets work together IRL (Extreme example: Blue whales), and they aren't smart enough to practice the food production that allows humans' levels of population density. And blue whales lack the kinds of motivations for defense against adventurers that semi/megabeasts do. And that's not getting into tribute...

I can't see anything short of a virtual keyboard being used for this kind of idea. That reduces available screen space, and since you need to press the spacebar to pause, it would need to be open...pretty much all the time.

Oh, and:

I don't know about that... many modern android devices with tegra based gpus have graphical performance on par with a lower end PC graphics chipset...

Some problems. One: Graphics are NOT the problem. If you can co-opt the graphics into pathfinding, great, but I doubt it. Two: DF makes low-performance computers cry. My netbook struggles with more than a simple, fairly small fortress (well, 60-70 FPS at best, but that's almost ideal circumstances); imagine something not quite as powerful as that. And most Android devices aren't the best. Yeah...DF won't be playable on phones for a long time.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on January 14, 2013, 07:25:24 pm

Again, I'm pretty sure children do haul.
I'm pretty sure that the only reason kids don't do other work is that they can't have the labors activated. Oh, and they're lazy.

What have you seen dwarven children haul?
The only times I have seen a child haul an object would be to move an owned item to their room or to return a booze back back to a booze stockpile after drinking from it.

Yup. Not often, but for some reason I don't get a lot of kids. (Also, I haven't been playing so much recently.)

The biggest problem is teaching the AI to know what makes sense. About the best I would hope for is being able to tell DF what symbols* are best-applicable to what kinds of names.

*Categories of words. Beauty, Nature, etc.

Quote from: Manveru Taurënér on January 05, 2013, 01:46:11 pm

Quote from: Novel on January 05, 2013, 12:50:36 pm

Fun is more important here, and smarter ogres are funner. Secondly, realism does not need to be lost for fun. So long as we take that there are magical laws working in conjunction with the real ones, which Toady can shape however he sees fit, it neither breaks the spirit of fantasy or realism, and the aim is to blend both.

Exactly ^^

If we want Semimegabeast quality monsters that work together we can add them.

We don't need to alter creatures to make them tougher.

There is NO reason for semimegabeasts not to work together, though. And many reasons for them to do so.

((Sure was.))

Always the best way to do it, IMHO. That way, you can catch the little issues that wouldn't be caught until release otherwise. (Playing your own game renders you vulnerable to bugs and such which happen when people push your system to the limit.)

Not today, but Charles Dickens taught me a new word through the mouth of Bitzer. (Not a trivial task, I might add.)

"Graminivorous."

It increases such categories as "total vocabulary," "diets," and "words Chrome doesn't think exist" by one apiece.