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Name: Nunoyer Biznes
Job: Wanderer
Bio: Also none of your business! I'm willing to work here, as long as I get a couple meals a day and a place to sleep. What's with these people?
Equipment: Clothes on back, Crowbar, Wood Axe, Revolver, 8 Bullets, 5 Granola Bars
Mutant Ability: Sufficient patience not to destroy annoying machines; Four Arms; Notably Strong
Skill: Sarcasm

NOTE: Reccomended for occupation with high turnover rate

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on January 05, 2013, 03:15:12 pm

Quote from: Rolepgeek on January 05, 2013, 03:09:02 pm

Two things.
One, realism has no place in discussing spacefaring alien species considering we have no idea whatsoever as to what they might be, other than they would need to be intelligent and capable of fine manipulation.

And they would need to be able to make spacecraft, which pretty much requires metal, which pretty much requires fire, which pretty much requires you not to be in the water.

phosphorus..... It can burn in any environment with oxygen..... And at really high temperatures as well
Sodium is similar in that regard, except explosions......

Well, sodium in its pure form tends to react...poorly...with water, so it's an even worse fuel than it would be for landlubbers.
I'm not sure if phorphorous flames would be practical for metalsmithing ever, but here's a question for you: How would they ignite this phosphorous they somehow got?

Two things.

One, realism has no place in discussing spacefaring alien species considering we have no idea whatsoever as to what they might be, other than they would need to be intelligent and capable of fine manipulation.

And they would need to be able to make spacecraft, which pretty much requires metal, which pretty much requires fire, which pretty much requires you not to be in the water.

Two, while I like Cleanser and Banisher, I think one-word names might be better, and why latin/greek? It's so cliche. Why not, like, chinese and russian? Or, you know, english.

Or something obscure, like Afrikaans.

Quote from: Bloax on January 05, 2013, 10:33:07 am

Am I reading people argumenting that a single ogre that wrecks some shit in your fortress is much more !!FUN!! than having an entire band of ogres storm your fortress?

Nha, it's more people arguing over whether ogre behaviour should be dictated by fun or realism (think everyone agreed bands of ogres/etc sounded great unless too common).

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Well, I've been arguing for realism because fun is a lot more subjective. It's hard to argue that Option X is a lot more fun. So I didn't. I've learned not to argue the unarguable.

Fun is subjective so lets make everything realistic even if it's super boring doesn't sound like very good design philosophy to me :>

Fun is more important here, and smarter ogres are funner. Secondly, realism does not need to be lost for fun. So long as we take that there are magical laws working in conjunction with the real ones, which Toady can shape however he sees fit, it neither breaks the spirit of fantasy or realism, and the aim is to blend both.

Agreed. However, I fail to see why my ideas would violate any of those ideals.

I thought I already did that...let me check...

Nor Justice!
And morality. And light.

Quote from: Doomblade187 on January 05, 2013, 11:58:07 am

((I think it was the fact that we had a more difficult time getting the items we were trying for.))

((So, here's a plan to make your minimalist RTDs last:
1. Limit the players, make doing things more difficult for them. Eliminate possibility of immediate derming.
2. Add some kind of particular gameplay mechanic on top of simple 1d6 rolls.
3. Make your overarching objectives more complicated. Add sub-objectives, characters, things like that.
4. Develop the universe a bit and make it a more interesting place to be in.
5. Finally, add plot.
Voila! You have a potentially lasting... uh... RTD.))

I've been trying #1, and the other four kinda violate the spirit of a minimalist RtD, which is what The Art of Minimalism tries to capture.

STOP THE DERMING AT ALL COST!.

[6] You stop the derming at the cost of inviting Azathoth over to play! It starts derming everything.

Have a jolly good time in the Abyss.

[4] Somehow, you do.

Respawn.
Summon snarl.

[3] You summon Soon's gate, [4] which falls to the ground, shatters, and releases the Snarl.

Respawn as small hivemind of amphibious kittens. Trying pray to the Lord of Cats to stop and reverse the derming.

[1] The Lord of Cats has surrendered to Azathoth, the Snarl, et al.

Respawn. Merge with all the references. And Furtuka the Derming!!!

[6] You exceed dermonster in power and destroy the derming so hard that the rest of creation is destroyed!

CHASE AFTER THE THINGS! SLAUGHTER THEM!

[2] You can't make it into the adamantine coridoor before Furtaka furtakas everything.