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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on December 29, 2012, 09:08:01 pm

Quote from: mainiac on December 29, 2012, 04:46:52 pm

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on December 29, 2012, 02:04:22 pm

Wouldn't it be easier to smelt the ores on Luna before launching them, or better--not launch them at all?

Because rail catapults DONT USE FUEL.  I explain shit to you and then it sails right through your head without interacting with the stuff in the middle.

Railguns do use energy, though. And energy isn't free. Oh, I'm sorry, ENERGY ISN'T FREE.

FUEL freaking fuel.  Propellant.  Reaction mass.  Fucking heavy ass shit that you have to launch into space and increases your costs exponentially.
Energy costs do not invoke exponential cost the longer you use them.  If I power 1 launch a day for 1 day or for 100 days it's all the same in energy costs.  But if I'm using fuel then the second is prohibitively expensive.
This isn't brain surgery, man.

No, but two things.
1. 100 launches use 100 times the fuel and 100 times the power of 1 launch. It's only if you're launching 100 times the mass that it gets exponential (because you need to lift the fuel).
2. I wasn't arguing that railguns aren't superior to rockets for certain things, just that they aren't as free as you seemed to believe.

1 advantage to the rotating space station is that it can move from place to place

not enough energy -- go closer to the sun. 
Not enough matter go closer to sources of matter.

Not a big advantage over planetary bases, which have craptons of resources and nice Langrange points which require minimal adjustment. Put some solar panels out there for Mars, beam the power back, bam! Power crisis solved.
It's an advantage, though.

And in the long run it may be easier to smash apart planets rather than mine them.

I highly doubt this. If nothing else, the dense, ore-rich rocks would presumably sink towards the middle of the cloud of rocks. Besides, the planet would start to reform pretty fast...

Quote from: 10ebbor10 on December 30, 2012, 05:54:09 am

Those numbers don't incorporate transmission and cooling losses though. Also, we're going to Mars, not mercury.

This is why I love Bay12. Someone posts an official NASA report with diagrams involving space rocketry and advanced physics, and someone raises their hand in the crowd and goes "WE CAN DO IT BETTER."

That's why, even with the inevitable magma floods and other global catastrophes, replacing the current world leaders with Bay12ers could only better the world.
That and because the current leaders aren't very good.

Dammit. I really liked having two hands.

Speaking of one hand, wasn't that what Omkel was holding on with at the end of last turn, so he should have fallen?

Try to think of a way to get a new hand...Are there any convenient corpses around?

Signups extended for 12 hours, since I forgot this is the time when nobody posts.

Was this 12 hours total (already passed) or 12 hours from that post (not yet)?

About time.

Figure out what the hell is going on.

"I see...Does anyone else know about OUTDOORS sector? You, Citizen Trig-R-HPY-1?"

No experimenting with how weird shapeshifting is until the guy we're trying to convince we're normal is gone!

I think the biggest problem is if husks lose their personality when they become husked.

Do they? There's a good argument, seeing as a husked axedwarf let back into the fortress will ignore the necromancer and zombies that they were brought back in to fight in favor of chopping up his wife and children, without going berserk and smashing the kitchen table.

There is a brief pause, then Cat-R-URS-1 says, "Um...The OUTDOORS Sector, sir."

"Indeed," he replies. "And what do you know of OUTDOORS Sector, Citizen Cat-R-URS-1?"