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Well, it's not quite the most accurate comparison, but it is a good game. I first played Phantom inside Starcraft 2; I don't know where else it's been.

It's a game of diplomacy and betrayal, and it usually starts like this, with some unsteady alliances, before everyone reveals their hidden agendas and goes for the neck.

So, like Diplomacy?

1. You can't take energy from the past because it was all used. If you take some then our current universe would drastically change in unknown ways.

It was not used, and many-world theory.

2. Sure, you could expand spacetime withing the barriers but you would need energy to do so which would run out in an enclosed space. But no, creativity and control over space and time can't let you do anything. You try to step out of bounds, i will put your physics raping ass back in line. Imagine you are in a room and the room is defined by 4 walls, a ceiling, and a floor. You have complete control over what happens in the room and the volume of the room and whatnot, but the room is still defined by the walls, so you cant change them.

I highly doubt you have the power to do that, but if that happens I'll figure something out.

3. If you say the many universes theory is true within this game then that makes Xantalos the most powerful god in existence. He could merge another universe with this one and alter the balance of power. He could merge us with a universe where it is pure madness creatures everywhere or pure dragons or pure liquid. That allows for too much asspulling "Oh, the Riftborn is eating everything. I'll just merge us with a universe that has the anti-riftborn! Problem solved, no conflict. Ponies for all!". Which would be dumb. NO ALTERNATE UNIVERSES IN THIS GAME.

1. That assumes you can actually do that. The definition of "universe" is typically "nothing elsewhere can affect it." Xantalos is only in this universe.
2. You're assuming that a god of barriers can force us to go to another universe, which is preposterous.
3. You're assuming that Xantalos WOULD follow your insane troll logic (logic of an insane troll, not insane logic of a troll).
4. You're assuming that the GM would accept that ITL.
5. You're assuming that what you see as a bad story device stops something from actually being true. Guess what? There's a lot of stuff IRL that makes for a worse "story," but it's still true.

The "many universes" theory is grounded in modern science, but might be best ignored for game reasons. And while I don't agree with my colleague on every level, his point is somewhat sound, and I think that conservation of energy is a very important gameplay element that will drive the stories's conflict--by forcing us into diplomacy, or outright war. GWG and Jbg97 have chosen war; indeed, I see this becoming very central to our plot, if you all are fine with that. But, remember we are all nearly equal in power. A war may be won by the unvocal minority rather than the more story-central majority.

1. I created time; barring GM fiat, what I say about time probably goes.
2. Speaking of war...there are three things which determine power in this game: actions, spheres, and restrictions. You have two people on your impromptu alliance; we have at least three. That gives us more actions and a wider range of spheres to get bonuses from. On a related note, a faction trying to eat the universe will have a harder time making friends than one going against them; therefore, unaffiliated parties (e.g. Xantalos) will be more easily convinced to go with us than you, for entirely pragmatic reasons like not getting omnomnomed. Finally, one of your two is stuck in a Time Prison which I keep reinforcing. I'm not certain of victory, but I certainly have a better chance of it.

Sorry about not having a turn yesterday. It slipped my mind.

Fun-R-THN-1 asks around for knowledge of where ---- is. He runs into a warbot.
"Do you know where ---- is?" He then realizes he said it wrong.
That is not authorized at your clearance level. Zap Zap Zap
Fun gets knocked out. Then shot some more and killed.
Fun-R-THN-2 is walking to the barracks when he gets struck with a high-speed Mission Alert Projectile. He is woudned and stunned. When he gets up, he reads the mission notice. It says pretty much the same thing the last one did.

Mayfair-R-FUN-1 locates someone who looks book-smart, if berefit of common sense. "Where am I? How do I get to the cafeteria? Since you are working in a lab, I deduce that knowledge brings you happiness. Unhappiness is treason. Therefore, if you don't tell me what I need to know, you'll be unhappy and, by extension, a traitor to the Computer. Now answer."
"Not all knowledge brings me happiness. Just some knowledge. However, I can deduce that to get to the cafeteria you would need to start by going into the hall and asking someone who doesn't eat in the labs about every day. Although I don't understand why you would need to eat now..."

Trig-R-HPY-1 starts poking around the halls, searching for ----.
"Is this my briefing room?"
"No."
"Is this my briefing room?"
"Go away."
"Is this my briefing room?"
*shoe*
"Is this my briefing room?"
"Go away."
"Is this my briefing room?"
WHAT IS YOUR SECURITY CLEARANCE, FRIEND?
"Red...Is this my briefing room?"
"No."
"Is this my briefing room?"
*successful flamethrower flames followed by an explosion*
(You are wounded.)
"Is this my briefing room?"
"Go away."
"Is this my briefing room?"
"I find that improbable, as this is a lavatory."
"Is this my briefing room?"
"This is the infrared barracks for this sector, sir."
"Is this my briefing room?"
*laser*
"Is this my briefing room?"
"Go away."
"Is this my briefing room?"
"No, idiot."

Cat-R-URS requests some reading material from Friend Computer, who provides. Cat's reading of an amusing and instructive story of some Troubleshooters who discovered a Commie mutant traitor in their midst was interrupted when someone poked their head into the briefing room and said, "Is this my briefing room?"
"Go away," Cat muttered as she returned to her story.

Three cheers for the first death!

Greiwurgoul, and go into the alcove if possible.

...Huh?

Be the squad medic.
Use medigun or other appropriate medical tools on nearest injured squadmate.

Teach the Swarm of Mobius the arts of war and the ways of making powerful non-orientable-surface-based military technology, then organize them into a loose semblance of a society based on eternally battling the demons through the Great Demon Gate. Hopefully that solves the demon problem. Use landed Osmites as leader caste to control the swarms after reshaping them into sentient Mobius strips. If that works, name the Osmites the Overlords of Mobius.

The Swarm of Triangles doesn't seem to be paying attention, [4-1] but it does pick up on the "battle." Which, to them, means "Kill." They flood through the wormhole and [2+2] kill most of the demons on Lurra. As well as most of the humans. Better read the turn better next time, neh? [5] You turn the Osmites into sentient, psychic Mobius strips; however, the Swarm doesn't seem to want to follow anyone.

Make YHWH wear the pantaloons.

"No, thank you. Here." You are wearing the pantaloons. [4v4] They sink their daemonic fangs into your torso.

Hnah!
Use VOOM from Cat in the Hat to clean up everything.

[4] The VOOM is deployed. It starts to fix things up, [5v4] then the triangles shred the Little Cats and the Voom. And the Big Cat, too, actually. Oh, and the Voom didn't quite finish bringing back the dead people. Not your fault; just try not to get messed up next time.
There, that looks much better!

Put Persean Devas on Sanctuary. Close portal to demon world.

[3] 33 of the Devas agree. [1] You open a portal to the demon world, which was not there before.

Christ, GWG. Could you slow down a bit? I'm kinda falling behind. >_>

Less than you'd think. It just means that YHWH doesn't have as much reason to dislike you.

Transform the semi-demons into a race of catpeople.

[5] Semidemons transformed into catfolk. Everyone is confused. The ones on Pandesmonium are swiftly corrupted into catdemons.

Use smite good on YHWH.

It fails to affect Him.

Steal YHWH's power

Not happening even without your -2 penalty.

DESUMMON YHWH

Ha, no.

Liberate the anti-humans.
Become patron-god of Anti-humans.

[1] You decide to kill the anti-humans oppressors! You kill those who would dare order them to their inevitable deaths against the demonic...hordes...wait. [4-1] Despite this, you gain a positive reputation among the anti-humans, and are accepted into their pantheon as the God of Boldness.

Fix mess.
Then make universes better.
And remove trash can.
See how humans are doing.

Most of that is too vague, but [5] the trash can is gone. The humans are being assaulted by demons, demon-lead antihumans, semidead people, and triangles.

To YHWH:"Why am I the only one trying to do anything useful?"

You're not. You get cursed for your arrogance!

GM TURN:
The demons siege Lurra! [5v1] Lurra is taken for the demons. Now they just need to drive off the triangles and the semidead...
YHWH puts out the crabmen's fire and reassembles the shards of the universe. One turn left, then you're probably turning into mortals. Or at least less powerful beings. Better choose what you want to be, fast...

((GM Suggestion: Check the turns more carefully, and occasionally check the OP.))

Probably.

Did we lick the NoraJuice?

If you want to, although that's kinda disgusting.