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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on March 03, 2014, 08:47:19 pm

Quote from: Twi on March 03, 2014, 08:43:05 pm

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on March 03, 2014, 08:36:43 pm

And while the news is on, they mention a series of bloody murders in Mexico. Given the timing, some suspect it has something to do with the dragons.
((Plot twist, it doesn't and the yellow dragons are innocent of everything.))

* Twi glances at the current state of mexico.

This is notable how?

There's more murders, more coordinated, and--wait, Mexico's really that bad?

Page 9 of this. I think that thingy at the side is saying that at the time of the report, it was number three in the international murder rate rankings.

...That would be more useful if the idiots labeled their axes. What units are those? Murders per year? Percent of population murdered per year? What?

I'll just leave this here.

(Titles made up.)

Sir Bedivere the Loyal (helped fight the Giant of Mt. St. Michael), Sir Bors de Ganis the Chaste (cousin to Sir Lancelot), Sir Gaheris the Calm (brother to Sir Gareth and Sir Gaiwaine, presumed nephew of King Arthur), Sir Galahad the Chivalrous (son of Sir Lancelot), Sir Gareth the Young (brother of Sir Gaheris and Sir Gaiwaine, presumed nephew of King Arthur), Sir Gaiwaine the Tempered (brother of Sir Gaheris and Sir Gareth, nephew of King Arthur), Sir Geraint the Dedicated (encountered the Sparrow Hawk Knight, whoever he was), Sir Kay the Tall (real title, foster brother of King Arthur, one of the "Three Enchanter Knights of Britain"), Sir Lamorak the Strong, Sir Launcelot Du Lac the Great (father of Sir Galahad), Sir Percivale the Pure, and Sir Tristan the Champion.

If you need specific strengths and flaws for each:

Does this work?

That's everyone in-town, now we need them folks outside.

I figured that out by checking the Wikipedia article. (If I hadn't I would have said so.)

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on March 03, 2014, 09:37:02 pm

...So, because Marie's subconscious doesn't care about rationalizing stuff, Robert's power doesn't work on her? He'd better watch out for scientists, then.
And you don't need to rationalize if you know. I'd say Will would be even less into rationalization than Marie.

Well, I suppose the idea of Robert is that it makes you 'know' he's 'human', hence the rationalization. Even scientists wouldn't be immune, because the mind just works that way afaik.

And why doesn't Marie's mind "just work that way"? After all, her psychology has always proven to be essentially human, which makes sense as she is (as I understand it) formed from the (nightmarish components of the) subconscious of humanity.

That said, I was going to ask about the apparent seperation of Will's mind and his power. And yeah, that works just fine, thank you.

Well...it's a thing. I'd say more, but like I said...spoilers. So read Worm, it's worth the read anyways.

I go out for dinner and an argument on whether Will should continue being a mary sue by no selling a characters power breaks out.

It's not Mary Suing unless it causes Will to take over the narrative. It certainly isn't Mary Suing if it doesn't have any impact on the plot!

Robert's power is like that one device from the Vampires of Venice episode of doctor who.

Helpful, since all I've seen are the adipose episode and the Fires of Pompeii one.

It make the brain assume they thing you are looking at is human, and the brain fills in the gaps. E.I. if you looked at his reflection, you wouldn't see a human, but something else. It kinda warns you of danger. In Robert's case, your brain sees a human, since he doesn't show any danger.

Huh?

Also, Does his power work on perception or rationalization?

Will's? Not really. Again, it's based on the power of Tattletale from Worm; you can see it in action in this interlude, although be warned: It contains (minor) spoilers.
If not Will's, or really even if it is, learn how to use pronouns unambiguously.

@ GWG

Because the webcartoonist hasn't posted all of them yet. He usually posts them when they are relevant to whats going on in the webcomic

Oh.

I take it you never use ion engines?

Not successfully!

NERVAs can result in them too.

Please don't acronym. If you do, the abbr key is nice.

Also, everyone assumed you said he knew everything and you never bothered to correct us.

Why would you assume I said that?

As for the argument: basically, when it comes down to it, it sounds to me like Robert's power works with the aid of the viewer's subconscious. It tells them an idea ("Robert is a perfectly normal, boring  human!") and then they subconsciously conjure up images, sounds, and all that to rationalize that idea and make it make sense. Your mind does this sort of thing all the time for little stuff like filling in gaps in your vision .Because Marie's subconscious (or conscious for that matter) is uniquely endowed with the ability to not give a fuck about rationalizing ideas with senses, well...

...So, because Marie's subconscious doesn't care about rationalizing stuff, Robert's power doesn't work on her? He'd better watch out for scientists, then.
And you don't need to rationalize if you know. I'd say Will would be even less into rationalization than Marie.

As for your arguments, the perception doesn't work, because the power would just subconsciously fill in the little tells all the better, I assume.

Why? Robert's power works on people, not powers. Will's power certainly isn't part of his subconscious; it's much too vocal (whenever I feel like it wouldn't clutter things up and/or would be funny) and separate from Will's consciousness for that. His power would, unaffected by Robert's, be telling Will things that are off with what Robert's power was telling his subconscious. And, since he hasn't really needed to rationalize anything ever since he got his power, the fact that he is rationalizing stuff would also clue in his power that something was wrong. If nothing else, it starts a feedback loop that his conscious ind couldn't help but notice.