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GWG. You failed the roll to hire spidey. Not to kill Sanders. I would roll Sanders v spidey.Oh.
I'm pretty sure it says in the description that just once, the person can be brought back to life after dying (that's the limited immortality I spoke of). Yeah we do use stealth a lot but we don't need Alice specifically to use stealth that much. It's usually just us. I'm not saying we never need her to be stealthy just saying the need for her to be stealthy isn't really any stronger than the need for any other member of our group. It is also important to keep in mind we just got another stealthy female capable of being transformed into a consort. This one might even be better in that regard although honestly we have relatively little to go on as far as guessing how skilled she is. Last thing, I want to be flexible and reach an agreement with everyone as often as possible. I personally do not think the Left Stone is the best gift for Alice. I also think it could be put to better use elsewhere. I understand you feel strongly about converting Alice, specifically with the left stone gift, even though I disagree. So yeah I was trying to suggest a decent compromise but you seem to dislike my suggestion. Do you have another gift you'd like to use other than the left stone that we might all be able to agree on?Alice would lose her woodlore and stealth abilities to the Phoenix gift. Alice actually has stealth and such; we can't expect our new consorts to learn stealth and whatnot right off the bat.
The mermaid seriously advised us not to pray to Nocteclaw without adequate training. If you wanna risk we may do that... but I suspect that failure will lead to seriuos problemsHm, forgot that. Did she mean "Asking for aid" prayer or "What people do IRL" or "Ask for advice" prayer?
Problem with impregnating consort with the left stoneWhy do we need to convert Alice while she's unconscious? Couldn't we at least wait until she's awake so it's less...creepy?
And Alice is smart enough to have kids (Besides I know that she'll answer something like - "I don't want to but if that will be required I'll do" + night troll instincts will kick in + I think that some lesbian trait is likely)
And we do need to convert Alice now,and if you all are so opposed to the left stoning let's use the combat gift... But don't delay conversion further.
And force the elf to stay, not kill but let it see how her friends get eaten\converted and generate sweet fear... Then release a mad elf
Why waste time and wait until Alice recover? And why do we need to go back to the tower? We need to keep terrorizing the retreat.With an increasingly pregnant consort and a bunch of loot? We should drop at least the loot, prisoner(s) if any, and Gwen off at the more defensible location. Anyways, the elves know we're here, we can't stay until Alice heals...
I have AN IDEA!...
As we know, while we convert someone we deconstruct them... Let's try to combine 2 elves while they are blobs. And use the puppeting gift, in that way we may get big night troll consort with split personality, probably mad, but loyal and obedient...
So I proposeI'm not sure about 3, and am against 1. 2 and 4 are fine.
1) Force the elf at exit to stay and watch
2) Let Gwen enjoy the meal
3) Combine the rogue elf, the axeelf and gift of puppetry in one new consort
Then we'll decide what to do with Alice
If you are suggesting conversion, please suggest a gift to convert with.I was hoping for discussion on that.
Plus, it's common courtesy.Let the one elf go, we promised him.+1 to all, sounds good. Especially agreed about the surviving elf - villains who keep their word are invariably more dangerous than ones who do not. Besides, one terrified survivor speaking of the posse's massacre will spread fear and may discourage elves from joining such ventures in the future.
Save the axeelf, convert the rogue, between two consorts and us we should be able to carry the axeelf and Alice. If we weren't to convert anyone yet and head home, we'd probably need to abandon both consorts since I can't imagine Gwen would be good at carrying people when that heavily pregnant.
While we convert the rogue, have Gwen loot the bodies.
Once we have a second consort, we can reassess our situation, interrogate the axeelf, and go from there.
Sound like a plan?
I recommend the Gift of Puppetry for the Warrior, the Gift of Amnesia for the Rogue.Sounds good.
A mindlessly obedient soldier and an assassin who can erase the memories of selective targets for us - quite a combo.
I also like the idea someone posted about trying to influence the surviving elf - perhaps tell him that he can go with no strings attached as we promised, but if he wished he could forge an alliance with us. Play on his fear by telling him that allies of ours need not fear the rising forces of darkness. Play on his greed and ambition by promising gold and power for those who aid us.Hm...
And it's really an ideal time to leftstone Alice... Admit that We will not get good enough gift for her soon, might as well upgrade her, get a strong ally NOW and don't care about less number of kids that muchI'm not sure if converting Alice while she's unconscious is a good idea, but this is as good a time as ever to discuss the gift to give her.
Let's not waste the left stone gift to - maybe, someday we will find a way to convert the mermaid and deliver her to the sea
We should make a little army of consorts, NOW and go back to the elves... and burn them down. they lost their best fighters we should not let them to recover
-snip-Ooh, good idea!
Agreed. We should also tell the elf that if he sides with us we could heal him at our tower.
Side Note: Can we please try and learn necromancy soon? Maybe send out one of our soon to be new consorts to find the necromancer who escaped before.Who?
Oh and no left stone to Ukrainian Ranger! The gift that gives fiery wings and limited immortality sounds like a better gift to me. I really want to save the left stone for someone AMAZING or use to just have a female child. The rest of its good though and I agree about not wasting our best gifts on consorts.We're not stoning the GM!
We have stealth based party... and use stealth constantlyWell, not at home, but yes. It's also stupid to give someone a gift that destroys one of that person's greatest talents.
And I fail to see, combat gift = immortalityThe Phoenix gift has a 1-Up built in. Emphasis on "1."
Let the elf go, even though he almost killed Alice, he made up for it by possibly saving the lives of all of us by betraying the mage. Loot the mage for any thing which could be helpful with magic. I think Gwen should eat until she is satisfied, even if it includes the warrior. I think that our raid was successful, enough with getting one captive, a caring for Gwen’s and the future child’s well being by feeding them, and most importantly coming out alive. I do not think we should risk all that was gained by staying any longer than needed. Also I think that the elf warrior should not be brought along because of two reasons. One is that it will be harder to feed a growing group since, we already have Alice, the merwoman (Something the III), Gwen, a child on the way, maybe another wife, and our night trollself. Our only steady and no risk option for food is our flock of lovebirds. The other reason is that with more night trolls and night trolls consorts, there is going to be a high demand/need for mortals to eat. More mortals killed= more enemies in some cases. Although, I know there are some plus to getting the warrior, I just don’t like the feel of getting her as a consort.More consorts also means more people we can send out to hunt.
One more thing is, I rather have our guy just start a family with Gwen and spend our gifts on the children because we can teach our children the way of the night troll more easily than a grown adult.More consorts means more buns in the oven, and anyways the consorts don't start as infants.
In short: let’s just get home.How? Two or three people plus gear plus loot to carry, two people (one pregnant) to carry it.
2 Q’s for Weirdsound:Half-trolls?
If our first child is a daughter, she wouldn’t be to have kids that are night trolls, but can still have kids with a mortal and have half-trolls right?
Night trolls can not die of old age, right?
(Do we still have the slip if we eat breakfast?)Missed this.
