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[16:13] == GreatWyrmGold [80d3b21c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.211.178.28] has joined ##ta-ooc
[16:13] <GreatWyrmGold> Greetings. Shall we begin the Council?
[16:14] <Akroma_> sure
[16:14] <GreatWyrmGold> Alright. Remind me, who's going with Stella?
[16:15] <Akroma_> damnit, ICARUS and ICARUS_ are taken
[16:15] <Akroma_> seems only me
[16:15] == Akroma_ has changed nick to _ICARUS_
[16:15] <_ICARUS_> there we go
[16:15] == wolfchild has changed nick to STella
[16:15] == STella has changed nick to Stella
[16:15] <GreatWyrmGold> Eh. I'm just going to go "[X] "Words""
[16:15] <_ICARUS_> Now then wyrm, we have wasted enough time. Lets get going
[16:15] == Stella has changed nick to WOlfchild
[16:15] <GreatWyrmGold> Oh, you can chance nicknames? How do you do that?
[16:15] <_ICARUS_> with /nick newnick
[16:15] == WOlfchild has changed nick to Stella_Wyrm
[16:16] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Gray
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[16:16] <Stella_Wyrm> St(stella is taken))
[16:16] == Gray has changed nick to GrayDragon
[16:16] <GrayDragon> There we go.
[16:16] <Poltifar> so GWG is GMing this?
[16:16] <GrayDragon> ((Who's going with Stella? Meme, anyone else?))
[16:16] <Poltifar> this encounter i guess?
[16:16] <Stella_Wyrm> ((this bit yeah))
[16:17] <_ICARUS_> ((yes))
[16:17] <GrayDragon> ((Indeed.))
[16:17] <_ICARUS_> ((if Meme is coming, someone PM cado, or shall I?))
[16:17] <Stella_Wyrm> ((I don't know, although stella was going to relay stuff through the bracelets, means that ICARUS can give advice))
[16:17] <_ICARUS_> ((dont see cado online, lets just begin))
[16:18] == GrayDragon has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[16:18] <Stella_Wyrm> ((begin?))
[16:18] <GreatWyrmGold> The gray dragon leads Stella, Meme, and ICARUS to an island in the Pacific. Their transit is sped up by some kind of magic that I didn't think of until just now.
[16:19] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Gray_Dragon
[16:19] <Gray_Dragon> "You will need to leave the child and the construct here for the duration of the council."
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[16:19] <Stella_Wyrm> "Meme, stay with ICARUS I will try not to be too long"
[16:19] <Stella_Wyrm> ((Hey USEC))
[16:19] <USEC_OFFICER> ((Hey))
[16:19] <_ICARUS_> As we have agreed to. Make sure to call me if you need help.
[16:20] == USEC_OFFICER has changed nick to Lunette
[16:20] <Gray_Dragon> "Excellent."
[16:20] <Stella_Wyrm> <Don't Worry ICARUS, I plan to>
[16:20] <Lunette> ((...))
[16:20] == Gray_Dragon has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[16:20] <GreatWyrmGold> With the non-dragons left behind, the gray dragon takes Stella up. Soon, they vanish from the sight of the others.
[16:21] <GreatWyrmGold> Stella appears in what looks like a massive cave, only better-lit. A number of dragons are scattered about the chamber; in the middle is a pedestal with a number of massive dragons, one of each type.
[16:21] <_ICARUS_>  oh for fucks sake, I wanted to get a look at the elder dragons
[16:21] * Lunette pouts.
[16:21] == Kansa [51836ec2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.131.110.194] has joined ##ta-ooc
[16:21] <_ICARUS_> ((woha, getting crowded)
[16:22] <Kansa> ((Hi))
[16:22] <Stella_Wyrm> ((how did you do that USEC? Hi Kansa))
[16:22] <_ICARUS_> (( /me action))
[16:22] <Stella_Wyrm> looks arround at the other dragons in the council
[16:22] * _ICARUS_ would pout if she had lips
[16:22] <Lunette> I wanted to see the dragons...
[16:22] <_ICARUS_>  Damn dragons and their secrecy
[16:22] <GreatWyrmGold> What are you looking for?
[16:23] <Stella_Wyrm> ((just general observation))
[16:23] <Lunette> Does Stella have a bracelet?
[16:23] <Stella_Wyrm> ((yes))
[16:23] <_ICARUS_>  We can hear and see everythingh through the bracelets anyway.
[16:23] == Sentient [8ec5e511@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.197.229.17] has joined ##ta-ooc
[16:23] <Stella_Wyrm> ((and yes, stella is transmitting)
[16:23] * Lunette smiles.
[16:23] <Lunette> Excellent.
[16:24] <GreatWyrmGold> Well...there is one dragon of each of the types listed in the google doc that I will link in a sec, except for yellow. In fact, there are no yellow dragons in the entire chamber.
[16:24] <Sentient> ((ayy
[16:24] <_ICARUS_>  so lunette lets kill some time, I guess. Man, see that big golden dragon? That's one ugly lizard
[16:24] <GreatWyrmGold> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agoa7qn0H_c4dHgyY0oxM0NDZ2I4cWRVcVBfRzNObFE#gid=0
[16:24] <GreatWyrmGold> Very funny.
[16:24] <Lunette> What big golden dragon? Where?
[16:24] * Stella_Wyrm feels a little strange to have dragons seperated by colour
[16:25] <Lunette> ((Fantasy racism. ))
[16:25] <_ICARUS_>  there at the pedestal. The one that looks like some weird animal mix. So much for being majestic
[16:25] <GreatWyrmGold> The dragons aren't separated; they tend to stick with their own type, but this seems to be more personal preference than anything. Kind of like how people of different ethnicities or religions get along better with each other, one could guess.
[16:25] <Lunette> Oh. Wierd.
[16:26] <Stella_Wyrm> ((what STella means is that her type of dragon can have multiple clourings is all))
[16:26] <_ICARUS_>  I should have Kyle build a dragon chassis for me. White and black, floral patterns, a breath weapon that fires a stream of molten uranium. It would be badass
[16:26] <GreatWyrmGold> Anything more Stella wants to figure out?
[16:26] <Lunette> Uranium?
[16:26] <Stella_Wyrm> ((yeah the general modod of the council))
[16:26] <Sentient> ((*increases desire to make robot character*
[16:26] <_ICARUS_>  A very heavy, radioactive metal
[16:27] <Lunette> Oh.
[16:27] <Lunette> Radioactive?
[16:27] <Stella_Wyrm> ((I thought you had a shapeshifter sentient))
[16:27] <_ICARUS_>  poisonous
[16:27] <Lunette> Oh okay then.
[16:28] <GreatWyrmGold> The dragons are all pretty restless. It's like if a bunch of people heard a distant explosion, then gathered to discuss it. Everyone knows something's wrong, but basically no one really knows what.
[16:28] <Lunette> Sounds pretty awe inspiring.
[16:28] * Stella_Wyrm just stands there for a bit, unsure if she is supposed to introduce herself
[16:28] <_ICARUS_>  probably better than whatever this golden freak is breathing
[16:28] <Stella_Wyrm> .me and is a little in awe most of them are bigger than her
[16:29] * Lunette nods in agreement.
[16:29] <GreatWyrmGold> The golden dragon on the pedestal, probably the largest in the room, clears its throat.
[16:29] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:29] <Golden_Wyrm> "I call this meeting of the Council of Wyrms to order."
[16:29] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[16:29] <GreatWyrmGold> The room falls silent.
[16:29] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:30] <Golden_Wyrm> "Thank you. As you should all know, the Cycle has begun once again. We have awoken from our slumber, over a century earlier than we should have."
[16:30] * Golden_Wyrm pauses
[16:30] <Golden_Wyrm> "Why is this?"
[16:30] * Stella_Wyrm keeps quiet for now
[16:31] <Golden_Wyrm> "I do not believe any of us can say for certain, but a number of us have our suspicions. Some of us, however, have proof. Who wishes to be the first to speak?"
[16:31] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Orange_Dragon
[16:31] <Orange_Dragon> "I will, sir."
[16:31] == Orange_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:31] <Golden_Wyrm> "Approach the podium, then, and speak."
[16:31] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Orange_Dragon
[16:32] * Orange_Dragon does so
[16:32] <Sentient> ((so much nickswitching
[16:33] <Orange_Dragon> ((Indeed. Also, note that the dragons are speaking in a half-telepathic language, hence them referring to places by their English names.))
[16:33] <_ICARUS_> ((yeah, Orange dragon: kjyhdfjh)) would be enough
[16:33] <Orange_Dragon> "Thank you, sir. As you know, the yellow dragons were interfering with the development of humans in the Central American region, demanding sacrifices to empower themselves."
[16:35] <Orange_Dragon> "It is generally believed that such activities were in part the cause of the rapid fall of the previous cycle, due to the siphoning of magical energies. Is it so improbable that the Yellow also caused this perturbation of the cycle?"
[16:35] == Orange_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:35] <Golden_Wyrm> "Do you have any proof of this?"
[16:35] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Orange_Dragon
[16:36] <Orange_Dragon> "I have but a little at this time. The Yellow and other dragons in that region awoke earlier than other dragons, suggesting that an action in that region caused the Sleep to end early. At this time, there is no further evidence."
[16:36] <_ICARUS_>  Hey Stella, once you can, ask them why there are no yellow dragons at the council
[16:36] == Orange_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:36] <Golden_Wyrm> "Thank you. You may return."
[16:37] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Orange_Dragon
[16:37] <Stella_Wyrm> <Need an opening to speak>
[16:37] * Orange_Dragon returns to its spot
[16:37] == Orange_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:37] <Stella_Wyrm> <if I speak out of turn I will probably lose all chance of a diplomatic solution>
[16:37] <Golden_Wyrm> "Is there anyone with evidence against this belief?"
[16:37] <_ICARUS_> <Raise your hands like in school?>
[16:37] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Blue_Dragon
[16:37] <Blue_Dragon> "I do, sir."
[16:37] == Blue_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:38] <Golden_Wyrm> "Approach the podium, then, and speak."
[16:38] <Stella_Wyrm> <I will try after the blue has finished>
[16:38] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Blue_Dragon
[16:38] * Blue_Dragon does so
[16:39] <Blue_Dragon> "Golden dragons in the Southwestern Pacific and Australia awoke earlier than the Tan Dragons of Argentinia or the Green Dragons of the North Pacific. This suggests more than a mere Yellow-caused ripple was occurring."
[16:40] == Blue_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:40] <Golden_Wyrm> "Have you anything else to say?"
[16:40] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Blue_Dragon
[16:40] <Blue_Dragon> "At this time, I do not."
[16:40] == Blue_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:40] <Golden_Wyrm> "Thank you. You may return."
[16:40] * Stella_Wyrm atempts to indicate that she wishes to speak
[16:40] <Golden_Wyrm> "Is there anyone with a rebuttal to this statement?"
[16:40] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[16:40] <GreatWyrmGold> No one responds.
[16:41] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:41] * Stella_Wyrm dares not try forcefully
[16:41] <Golden_Wyrm> "Does anyone else have a rebuttal to the original topic, accusing the yellow of meddling?"
[16:41] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[16:41] <_ICARUS_> Stella grow a spine, speak up
[16:42] <GreatWyrmGold> ((What does Stella say?))
[16:42] <Stella_Wyrm> "If I may, I am curious about the absence of the Yellows"
[16:43] <GreatWyrmGold> The dragons turn in surprise when Stella speaks.
[16:43] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Tan_Wyrm
[16:43] * Stella_Wyrm starts feeling panic
[16:43] <Tan_Wyrm> "...The Yellow are not represented due to crimes they have committed against dragonkind and the world."
[16:44] <Tan_Wyrm> "They have meddled with the fabric of magic, with their own essence, in hopes of gaining power."
[16:44] <Tan_Wyrm> "The Yellow are no longer worthy of being considered dragons. While bound by our laws, they no longer receive our privileges."
[16:45] <Lunette> Meddled with the fabric of magic?
[16:45] <Stella_Wyrm> <probably that sacrifice thing they were talking about before>
[16:45] == Tan_Wyrm has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[16:45] <_ICARUS_>  Hmm, I'll note that down. Maybe Kyle wouldn't mind equipping a hunting party top get some yellow dragon products, without any diplomatic issues
[16:46] <GreatWyrmGold> No one else speaks for a moment.
[16:46] <Lunette> Oh. Okay. I wouldn't mind looking at a yellow dragon up close, if he'll let me...
[16:46] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:46] <Golden_Wyrm> "The meeting may go back to order. Are there any other points for our current item of business?"
[16:47] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[16:47] <GreatWyrmGold> The gray dragon who took Stella there speaks up.
[16:47] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Gray_Dragon
[16:47] <_ICARUS_>  if you want to, I can help you get one for anatomical studies
[16:47] <Gray_Dragon> "I have, sir."
[16:47] == Gray_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:47] <Golden_Wyrm> "Then approach the podium."
[16:47] * Lunette looks at ICARUS
[16:47] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Gray_Dragon
[16:47] <Lunette> Really? You would do that for me?
[16:47] * Gray_Dragon does so
[16:48] <_ICARUS_>  Sure, though I might need some assistance. In a one on one fight, I might have a problem
[16:49] <Lunette> Oh. Okay. I'll try to help if I can.
[16:49] <Gray_Dragon> "First, I would like to note that this cycle has a number of abnormalities aside from length. Most obviously, perhaps, is the new race of dragon and its affinity, in both appearance and magic, to humanity and its creations."
[16:49] <Gray_Dragon> "But aside from this, there is reason for concern...for not only one race of dragons has appeared, but a second as well."
[16:49] * Gray_Dragon gestures to Stella
[16:50] * Stella_Wyrm squirms
[16:50] <_ICARUS_>  As if Stella is much to be concerned about...
[16:50] <Gray_Dragon> "This dragon was found when the whelp Colrath attacked the human city, and was then found once more across the world with a group of humans."
[16:50] <_ICARUS_>  I mean, no offense but...
[16:50] <Stella_Wyrm> <There are a lot of dragons here, If i was as big as my mother maybe I would feel less intimidated))
[16:51] <Gray_Dragon> "This race seems to lack the inherent connection to the rest of dragonkind that all races, even the Yellow, possess."
[16:51] <Lunette> Is Stella a different type of dragon?
[16:51] <_ICARUS_>  I hope so, these dragons are assholes
[16:51] <Stella_Wyrm> <Yes, I am not even from this world>
[16:52] <Stella_Wyrm> <and I will say this now, my kind have gotten along decently with humans for a while>
[16:52] <Gray_Dragon> "More conclusions cannot be drawn unless further members of her race can be found, but what we can tell, combined with what we know from the Silver Dragons, shows that these issues cut deeper than meddling by the Yellow. Indeed, much of the meddling would likely have needed to be done while all dragons slept."
[16:52] * _ICARUS_ makes an explicit gesture
[16:52] <_ICARUS_>  Yeah she has...
[16:53] <Lunette> <Oh okay then. That's good to hear, Stella.>
[16:53] * Lunette looks at ICARUS confused.
[16:53] <Gray_Dragon> "I suspect that the humans have been tampering with magic on a deeper level than any ever have, save perhaps the Yellow, and on a deeper level than any should."
[16:53] * _ICARUS_ is glad Lunette probably didn't understand what she meant
[16:53] <_ICARUS_>  I mean, she is in love with Will
[16:53] * _ICARUS_ has a devious idea
[16:53] <Gray_Dragon> "At this time, however, there is no further evidence."
[16:53] <_ICARUS_> This is a gesture for love
[16:53] == Gray_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:53] <Golden_Wyrm> "Has anyone a response to the Gray Dragon's statement?"
[16:53] <Stella_Wyrm> <Icarus thats nothing new, I am a HALF-Dragon you know wthat tha means right?>
[16:54] <Lunette> Oh. Okay then.
[16:54] <Stella_Wyrm> "I do"
[16:55] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[16:55] <GreatWyrmGold> The dragons look uncomfortable.
[16:55] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[16:55] <Golden_Wyrm> "Then approach the podium and speak."
[16:56] * Stella_Wyrm aproaches the podium
[16:56] <Stella_Wyrm> "I know not the why of the Silver dragons"
[16:56] <Stella_Wyrm> "But I have come from a seperate world, with very different dragons"
[16:56] <Stella_Wyrm> ((pause))
[16:57] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[16:57] <GreatWyrmGold> The dragons are listening.
[16:58] <Stella_Wyrm> "This is all new to me, where I come from there is only one kind of dragon,"
[16:58] <Stella_Wyrm> "We would sometimes get along with other species more han some members of our own"
[16:59] <Stella_Wyrm> "If my apearance has caused concern, I am sorry"
[16:59] * Stella_Wyrm backs away from the podium
[17:00] <GreatWyrmGold> The dragons watch her return to her seat.
[17:00] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[17:01] <Golden_Wyrm> "...Are there any who wish to comment on this?"
[17:02] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[17:02] <GreatWyrmGold> None respond.
[17:02] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to GoldenWyrm
[17:02] <GoldenWyrm> "Are ther eany who wish to respond to the original statement?"
[17:03] == Nickname is already in use: Red
[17:03] == GoldenWyrm has changed nick to Red_Dragon
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[17:03] <Red_Dragon> ((Testing nickname.))
[17:03] <Red_Dragon> "I do."
[17:03] == Red_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Dragon
[17:03] <Stella_Wyrm> <Yeah, Glad I am not related to this funhouse ...>
[17:04] <Golden_Dragon> "Please approach the podium."
[17:04] == Golden_Dragon has changed nick to Red_Dragon
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[17:04] * Red_Dragon does so
[17:04] <Red_Dragon> "I would like to challenge the notion that humans would, or even could, meddle with magic on the level required to disrupt the cycles."
[17:05] <_ICARUS_> <Yeah, I told you these guys suck. We should look into this whole cycle thing and just put them back to sleep somehow>
[17:05] <Lunette> <I would be happy to help investigate.>
[17:05] * Lunette has a slight grin on her face.
[17:05] <Red_Dragon> "Firstly, in my time I have watched over many humans, and those who may be interested in such matters as the fundamental nature of magic rarely have any gift."
[17:06] <_ICARUS_> <Well, we probably don't have books like that in our library>
[17:06] <Lunette> <We won't unless we look.>
[17:06] <Red_Dragon> "Those with the gift and the creative ambition which could lead to such dangerous studies, tend to turn their hopes towards more obviously profitable matters, such as fireworks, elixers of life, and medicine."
[17:06] <Lunette> <Or we could always find a yellow dragon and ask it...>
[17:07] <_ICARUS_> <why would they tell us how to put them to sleep?>
[17:07] <Lunette> <I don't know. Do you have a better idea where to start?>
[17:07] <Red_Dragon> "Moreover, while the humans have been showing greater interest in and talent for magic with each cycle, the idea that they somehow managed to get enough power to meddle with the deep cycles of magic is preposterous. Even scratching the surface took the might of nearly an entire race of dragonkind!"
[17:08] <_ICARUS_> ((I have a very good idea but that is very spoilerific and meta))
[17:08] <_ICARUS_> <I don't. Magic is my direct opposite>
[17:08] <Lunette> <Oh. Okay then.>
[17:09] <Red_Dragon> "How could humans do something like this? And, moreover, why would they? Certainly, they have something to do with some of the anomalies, but claiming they are at the root of things is like claiming a tree's growth is caused by a pole which a branch grows around."
[17:09] == Red_Dragon has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[17:09] <GreatWyrmGold> ((No, the golden wyrm is not me.))
[17:09] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[17:09] <Golden_Wyrm> "You may return. Has anyone a response?"
[17:09] <Lunette> ((Out of curiosity, what's the spoilerific idea?))
[17:10] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Gray_Dragon
[17:10] <Gray_Dragon> "I have one."
[17:10] == Gray_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Dragon
[17:10] <Golden_Dragon> "Approach the podium."
[17:10] == Golden_Dragon has changed nick to Gray_Dragon
[17:10] * Gray_Dragon does so
[17:12] <Gray_Dragon> "I believe that our eastern companion is entirely too kind to the humans. Certainly, some would not pursue the nature of magic without any reason, but this does not seem to be true of all. In my time, and in the time of my ancestors, humans have performed quests for power, for its own sake."
[17:14] <Gray_Dragon> "Moreover, examining the current state of things suggests a cult within cults, seeking knowledge for its own sake. Such a system would of course prompt an attempt to learn how the deepest parts of the magical world worked."
[17:14] <Gray_Dragon> "I cannot claim to know how they did what they did, but their involvement is undeniable."
[17:14] == Gray_Dragon has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[17:15] <GreatWyrmGold> The dragons have essentially nothing left to say on this topic, and move onto others less interesting to us. Territorial arguments, discussions of how changing rivers and such require a change to the domains of various dragons, and--above all--the question of what to do with the humans.
[17:16] <GreatWyrmGold> Most of them seem to want to leave the humans alone for now, and see what happens. Others suggest war, an official alliance, or letting each dragon choose its own course.
[17:16] <GreatWyrmGold> What does Stella say on the matter? Does she even choose to speak
[17:16] <GreatWyrmGold> ?
[17:16] <Stella_Wyrm> ((yes))
[17:16] <Stella_Wyrm> ((just lemme think exactly what she says))
[17:16] <Stella_Wyrm> <any advice guys>
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[17:17] <_ICARUS_> <Hey, those guys can't just redirect rivers as they please.>
[17:17] <Lunette> <Nope, I don't really know much about politics.>
[17:17] <_ICARUS_> <That might destroy the livelihood of millions>
[17:18] <Stella_Wyrm> "Many humans do strive for their own power, others however work for the greater good, mostly for their own species true, but most of them do not beleive in our existance"
[17:18] <Stella_Wyrm> <They are talking about their territories changing, not moving the rivers>
[17:18] <GreatWyrmGold> ((They didn't redirect rivers, the rivers redirected themselves.))
[17:18] <Stella_Wyrm> "All humans however would band together against something they saw as an existential threat"
[17:18] <GreatWyrmGold> ((Like the Rio Grande, which screwed Mexico a bit for a while by changing its course southwards.))
[17:19] <Stella_Wyrm> "Which a war between dragons and humans would be seen as"
[17:20] <GreatWyrmGold> A white dragon questions what humans could do to dragons.
[17:20] <Stella_Wyrm> "It would be far better to at least not provoke such a response from them, and better still to make them see us as friends, as the foul among them would find an excuse to do what they want anyway"
[17:20] <Stella_Wyrm> "Human technology has advanced considerably"
[17:20] <Lunette> ((What could humans do to dragons? Geez, haven't they been paying attention to current events?))
[17:21] <Stella_Wyrm> "Only the golds and myself could survivethe heat of a direct nuclear explosion for one thing"
[17:21] <Stella_Wyrm> "and the shockwave and shapnel would cause us grevious harm  as well"
[17:21] <Stella_Wyrm> "and they have had these weapons for at least half a century"
[17:21] <GreatWyrmGold> There is silence in response. Confusion.
[17:21] <_ICARUS_> <Stella, I have doubts mankind will start using nukes as anti-personel weapons. I assure you, conventional rockets will do well enough in tearing a dragosn flesh>
[17:22] <Stella_Wyrm> <I need them scared of humans, overkill helps>
[17:22] <Stella_Wyrm> "They only use such weapons as a last resort however"
[17:22] <_ICARUS_> <I tried that before, they are too arrogant for that to work>
[17:23] <Stella_Wyrm> <from another dragon however, they may listen>
[17:23] <_ICARUS_> <Just ask them wether the consequences of war with manking stand in a reasonable relation with the gain. Would the dragons burn the world to rule over the ashes?>
[17:23] <Lunette> <Probably...>
[17:23] <Stella_Wyrm> <thats sorta what I am trying to do>
[17:24] <Stella_Wyrm> "If we do not fight them however, and instead gain thier trust and friendship"
[17:24] <GreatWyrmGold> The dragons are still listening.
[17:24] <Stella_Wyrm> "They have made many advances in areas such as medicine"
[17:25] <_ICARUS_> <Well try harder, or I'll transmit the results of this council to IRIS, who will transmit it to the rest of the world. Preventive nuclear strikes are the best nuclear strikes>
[17:25] <Stella_Wyrm> "and are always searching for ways to make life easier, would it not be best to share in that, rather than burn everything"
[17:26] <Stella_Wyrm> "as that would be the rusult of a war with humanity"
[17:26] <Stella_Wyrm> "Whomsoever won, would not realy be a victor, there would be nothing left to claim"
[17:27] <Stella_Wyrm> "My vote is therefore alliance with humans, and more opennes so that their laws will protect us from the worst among them"
[17:27] * Stella_Wyrm finishes
[17:29] <Stella_Wyrm> <cross your fingers>
[17:29] <Stella_Wyrm> <and give me enough warning to teleport out before sending the nukes>
[17:29] <Stella_Wyrm> <if neccisary>
[17:30] <_ICARUS_> <Crossing my fingers that the missiles will be here quick enough. You know how humans are, always hesitating so much..>
[17:30] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[17:30] <Golden_Wyrm> "...Have you anything else to say?"
[17:31] <Stella_Wyrm> "only that I will not have anything to do with a war of genocide"
[17:32] <Golden_Wyrm> "You may return."
[17:32] * Stella_Wyrm does so
[17:32] <Golden_Wyrm> "Does anyone have a reply to these statements?"
[17:32] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Ferrous_Dragon
[17:32] <Ferrous_Dragon> "I do."
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[17:32] == Ferrous_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[17:32] <Golden_Wyrm> "Then please approach the podium
[17:32] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to Ferrous_Dragon
[17:33] <Ferrous_Dragon> "Firstly, what are these nuclear weapons you seem to think we should be so afraid of?"
[17:33] <Ferrous_Dragon> "But more importantly, what makes you think that the humans would wish to help us?"
[17:33] <Stella_Wyrm> "Because we could aid them"
[17:33] <Ferrous_Dragon> "They have exhibited only--"
[17:34] * Ferrous_Dragon glares at Stella
[17:34] <Stella_Wyrm> "and enough of them realise that a war would be too costly even if they won"
[17:34] == Ferrous_Dragon has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[17:34] <Stella_Wyrm> "If you ask a question expect a esponse"
[17:34] <GreatWyrmGold> Indeed, everyone seems rather unsettled by Stella's statement.
[17:34] <Stella_Wyrm> ((response*))
[17:35] == GreatWyrmGold has changed nick to Ferrous_Dragon
[17:35] <Ferrous_Dragon> "If you have a response, you are to wait until it is your time to speak."
[17:36] <Stella_Wyrm> <such bores, they take any posible fun out of debate>
[17:36] <Stella_Wyrm> ((also I need to have a shower soon
[17:36] <Stella_Wyrm> ))
[17:36] <Ferrous_Dragon> "The humans have exhibited only hatred towards us, save when we are in power, when they show fear. Only the Red and the Yellow have avoided such fates, and they did so by tricking the mortals into believing they were gods."
[17:36] <_ICARUS_> <You are disussing the eradication of mankind, it's not a fun debate>
[17:37] <Ferrous_Dragon> "There is little reason to believe they will gratefully accept an alliance from us now, particularly as those regions which once revered dragons have turned to idols of their own creation."
[17:37] <Lunette> <They wouldn't be able to completely eradicate mankind, would they?>
[17:37] <Ferrous_Dragon> "I have nothing further to say in response."
[17:37] == Ferrous_Dragon has changed nick to Golden_Wyrm
[17:37] <Stella_Wyrm> <they may, but there would be nothing left, as I have already stated>
[17:37] <Golden_Wyrm> "You may return. Does anyone have a response to the previous statements?"
[17:37] <_ICARUS_> <Tell them about the UN, and to start official talks. If these talks fail, there can still be war, but communication should be attempted first>
[17:38] <Stella_Wyrm> "me"
[17:38] <Stella_Wyrm> <good plan>
[17:38] <Lunette> <The UN? What's that?>
[17:39] <Stella_Wyrm> <united nations>
[17:39] <Lunette> <United Nations?>
[17:39] <_ICARUS_> <Closest mankind has to their own council of wyrms. Much better speakers than Stella at least, and not keen on war. They will have a better chance at defusing the situation, at least.>
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[17:39] <Golden_Wyrm> "You may approach the podium."
[17:39] <Stella_Wyrm> <I am not a great speaker, I know this>
[17:39] * Stella_Wyrm does so
[17:40] <Stella_Wyrm> "A few points, first you ask why I should be worried about the nuclear weapons"
[17:40] <Stella_Wyrm> "They are weapons that utilise the conversion of matter to energy"
[17:40] <Lunette> <Oh. Okay. Seems kinda weird...>
[17:40] <Stella_Wyrm> "a single SMALL device would level this entire island"
[17:41] <Stella_Wyrm> "as to working with the humans"
[17:41] <_ICARUS_> ((makes me wonder, since ICARUS runs on a fusion reactor, would she blow up in a nuclear explosion of her body is destroyed?))
[17:41] <Lunette> ((Eh... I don't think so.))
[17:42] <Stella_Wyrm> "the fear and hate that you have experienced in the past was largly due to religion AND misunderstanding"
[17:42] <Lunette> ((The difference between a bomb and a reactor is pretty big.))
[17:42] <Stella_Wyrm> "The humans of this time are more open to new ideas"
[17:42] <Golden_Wyrm> ((Yeah. The only reason Chernobyl exploded was because the Russians were being idiots and created just the right conditions.))
[17:43] <Lunette> ((And even then it wasn't an actual nuclear explosion. Just spewed a lot of radioactive materials, I believe.))
[17:43] <Stella_Wyrm> "and as I said before, they would realise that a war would be catastrophically expensive"
[17:43] <_ICARUS_> <for both sides>
[17:44] <Stella_Wyrm> "The humans have what they call the United Nations, which has the right to negotiate beween nations,"
[17:44] <Stella_Wyrm> "declair yourselves to them, and make your case"
[17:45] <Stella_Wyrm> "fear is the antithisis of reason and war is a knee-jerk reaction to the fear you feel"
[17:46] <Stella_Wyrm> "The mark of Sapience is the ability to rise above instincts and emotoins when necisary"
[17:46] <_ICARUS_> <Create some sympathy, tell them humans also only fear them, and that if fear can be avoided, coexistance can be discussed>
[17:46] <Stella_Wyrm> "The humans fear you, probably more than you fear them"
[17:46] <Stella_Wyrm> "you are big and capable of great destruction"
[17:47] <Stella_Wyrm> "If you come to them as fellow intelligent beings"
[17:47] <Stella_Wyrm> "Such fear can be dispersed, rather than re-inforced"
[17:48] <_ICARUS_> ((ICARUS actually kinda wants some war, as technology usualy develops fastest during war. Machinekind would benefit greatly))
[17:48] == Golden_Wyrm has changed nick to GreatWyrmGold
[17:48] <GreatWyrmGold> ((Of course.))
[17:48] <Stella_Wyrm> "And to those of you, for whatever reason think humans see us as beasts, then PROVE. THEM. WRONG. a war would not do this, it would reinforce such a sentiment i it exists"
[17:48] <Lunette> ((I also kinda want to see some war for reasons.))
[17:48] <Stella_Wyrm> (if it exists*))
[17:49] <_ICARUS_> <Remind them what a bad impression the Colrath incident must have left, and that they should try to correct it>
[17:50] <Stella_Wyrm> "Colrath has left a bad impression, is that what you want human memories to think of us, that we are monsters,"
[17:51] <Stella_Wyrm> "If we make a gesture of friendship, they would respond, enough want us to exist, that it would be inevitable"
[17:51] <Stella_Wyrm> "And to close I must re state the options"
[17:51] <Stella_Wyrm> "Do you wish to rule over ashes"
[17:51] <Stella_Wyrm> "Or share in a bountiful world"
[17:51] * Stella_Wyrm stella leaves the podium again
[17:51] <Stella_Wyrm> <I hope that the colrath thing did not make it worse>
[17:52] <Stella_Wyrm> ((I really do need to have a shower soon, can we wrap this up?))
[17:53] <GreatWyrmGold> ((I'll wrap this up and post a transcript in-thread.))
[17:53] <Stella_Wyrm> ((thanks))
[17:53] <Stella_Wyrm> ((got a little time but not much))
[17:53] <GreatWyrmGold> The meeting goes on. As to the human issue, they decide to send a silver dragon to the UN.
[17:54] <GreatWyrmGold> Other issues are discussed. I doubt you'd care about the specifics of draconic politics though.
[17:54] <Stella_Wyrm> ((nope))
[17:55] <_ICARUS_> ((gold dragon is manipulating the votes guys! it's all a hoax!))