And on a side note... TAKE THAT Greatwyrm, from the combo of great rolls and being scary to children, we got gift of Hideousness
It was due to luck, which we would have had no matter what we chose, and hideousness is the worst gift I've seen so far.
What? You never heard of Powered by a Forsaken Child?
Ooh, it's like someone hitting you with your own sword! Ouch! That's gotta hurt, man!
Not really. He can quote tropes all he likes, but without any sort of evidence it's meaningless. I haven't seen anything to suggest that child souls would be anything but younger, less mature souls.
Joke aside, I'm pretty sure we are here to be a typical night troll. That includes the typical DF mythology, but there are other myths with night trolls in them. I can't think of any of them being "nice." It's just not who we are, and we can't run from it. Doesn't mean we're an idiot, nor does it mean we should senselessly slaughter. We're a thinking evil, the worst kind you can ever fight. We're going to stack the deck, and our greatest asset really is fear. We don't feel it, but all the civs, immortal or not, do. And fear makes people do very stupid things.
Yes, because we've taken every opportunity to slaughter innocents and be generally an ass.
Simply, a thinking enemy is the hardest to fight. That will be us. The small child pissing their beds at night will be the Elves. I don't imagine they would put up much of a fight.
They can think, too. And they outnumber us, have more magic and weapons than us, and include some of the only people to have ever seen a night troll before. Don't piss the elves off without a good reason.
Exactly my point... although we are compassionate for a night troll, we are a perversion of the night and thus should strike fear into the hearts of our enemies..
Instead of killing the young girl, use dark manipulation to give her frightening visions, the long and repeating kind that causes insanity
Compassionate? We're evil. We're just not stupid.
But I do like your plan. Perhaps a mixture of dark manipulation and hypnosis could drive her mad.
We could use a mad elf in many ways:
Making her a subtle kind of mad, and really only break her deep down inside. Basically creating a fear-thrall.
Have her then either overthrow the government or the religion. They are capable of calming the populace and forming hunts after us. Of course, if Elves are a theocracy (I think I remember druids appointing queens, or vice-versa, but times have changed) then we could kill two birds with one stone.
We could use her as just a traveling spy, and get us some intel every once in a while.
We could use her to spread tales of fear. Have her claim to her "friends" that the being who cursed them cursed her with some kind of foresight. Maybe we could give her some kind of distinctive mark that way. We can have her pretend to predict the future, and throw them off and make them fear an enemy, just the wrong one. We can make her predictions come true from time to time using our magic, and using Leghorn's. He'll help us with this plan because he has something to gain as well: infamy. It's the reason he agreed to help us, so it makes sense he would go for it again. We'll just have her tell listeners about a great sorcerer. Hell, we can paint him as the good guy of this situation, and ourselves as the bad guy. Then the Elves will side with Leghorn, and through him, us. (This plan is actually my favorite.)
We could also break her completely, and make her completely mad. Then have her wander a bit and cause fear that way. It's kinda mindless evil though, I don't think it would do that much.
Or we could give her to our dear wife.
What do y'all think? Any of these good?
Since we've already attacked them, I'd advise either killing her or letting her go free, able to tell them about the horrible creature we are.
Not truly compassionate, just compassionate for a night troll,
Meh. We're more compassionate than some people. Look at the contrasting treatments of Alice between us and Foghorn.
Also for our new gift I propose we use it on the girl Vindel wanted
Its ironic because her loved her beauty
Oh, that's awesome. We should definitely do that. Something like set up a mock-wedding, and when he lifts the veil, BLAMMO! SHE'S HIDEOUS!
He is, after all, a homicidal dickwad.
I'm more concerned about the enslaving for some reason. Maybe it's because death frees the soul or some philosophical BS like that.
Despite my disagreement with him earlier, in large part i *do* agree with GreatWyrmGold about needless evil. We are the very last breeding member of our kind, and we still aren't heavily prepared for the machinations of a skilled enemy or civilization that fully discovers and declares war against us. We need to play smart. However we also need to stay strong and healthy, and i believe it's likely that the terror and flesh of sentient beings goes along way towards that. Think of it this way; the reason certain things are so tasty to humans is because at a fundamental level the tasty things we eat are some of the things that organisms require the most, even if those things become bad for us simply because of how god damn complicated our bodies are. Thinking about it this way, maybe there is a biological/magical reason that we enjoy fear and the flesh of sentient beings so much, if it's hard wired into us there could well be a reason for it. So while i espouse caution and *yes* even compassion at times, i do think we should get our recommended daily intake of pain and suffering.
Thanks. I'm glad to know others sometimes think of me as the voice of reason.
My vote summed up: Bring Gwendolyn to look at the chest quickly, don't steal the soul of our prisoner or otherwise turn her into a psychotic liability, drop off useless crap, give the elf as a temporary plaything and meal to Gwendolyn if she gets the chest open.
+1
Is the captured elf chick over 18? If so I think we should consider converting her, we have a few gifts. Can never have enough loyal consorts.
18 is, like, 5 in elf years. Yes, she's over 18. No, she's probably not over elf!18.
Even if she wasn't, overall she isn't particularly special, we should still save our gifts for those who are.
+1. Unless we somehow get a gift surplus.