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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on October 29, 2012, 10:55:32 pm

Quote from: misko27 on October 29, 2012, 10:51:10 pm

Well, Nixon got us into China, and The Kaisar was extrordinairaly competent when it came to forging political alliances. Wasn't alken bout ethics. It's the philosophy of putting aside Ideology to achieve a aim. Something YOU should look into.

You know what works well? Having your people WANT to serve you. Fewer rebellions than if you force them.
You know what does that well? A good, just rule.
You know that you're not doing?
Any of that.

Hey guess what?

So, I am going to continue to attack the Brown man. And there's nothing anyone can do to stop me. So he is going to get angry. So you can do whatever you want, give up our best chance to defeat him, and eventually be wiped out by his rage, OR, we can kill him now, all jump him at once, Really go to town! A report was mde for this eventuality. I am willing to guarentee, Minimal civilian casualties. Only 10-20 million Tops. depending on the breaks.

/notseriousStrangelovereference

This is why you would suck at leadership. You make these grandoise claims, without considering basic obstacles, such as the gun which kills us instantly or the fact that Tim isn't unique.

Quote from: Dirg on October 29, 2012, 11:04:10 pm

If anything Misko, since a good deal of everyone else is currently not fighting and attempting to establish peace, and you being the only one besides your minions trying to start war, you guys would probably be singled out and destroyed.

Nope. I will force my loyal minions to fight too. Pluus theres Xantalos. And Da_nang. And Greenstar is breaking away, so more war.

Besides, his terms are that we come to peace. That's not going to happen! I tried that, and  failed. So, In honor of my nation, Fuck You.

You are pretty much the only person still interested in attacking Tim despite his power. You've been trodding all over my Good since Day One; if you force me to violate my Pragmatic I'll need to leave. Taking all Aperture Science products with me. That crown you think I don't know about? Aperture gold.

Quote from: Dirg on October 29, 2012, 11:12:15 pm

"Me? Don't even think for a second you can blame this on me! Lichette and I had to flee from our own time line from you guys so we could live a peaceful life, only for you to follow! Every time there is an ounce of peace, you plan war. I couldn't even marry the woman I love without you scheming a battle, and I can't even fully enjoy my honeymoon with Lichette because you're plotting war while everyone else is wishing for peace."

I am sorta pissed off now. Seriously. I tried to make peace, and your side decided to ignore it. So fuck you. My offers come rarely. You will learn to treasure them as they should be. You, And your wife, decide not to have peace, and then have the Temerity, The Audacity, The un-mitigated GALL! To blame me? Fuck off.

If by "Peace" you mean "A horrible empire wracked with constant rebellion," then yes, I did want to stop you.

Quote from: misko27 on October 29, 2012, 11:17:30 pm

Quote from: Dirg on October 29, 2012, 11:12:15 pm

"Me? Don't even think for a second you can blame this on me! Lichette and I had to flee from our own time line from you guys so we could live a peaceful life, only for you to follow! Every time there is an ounce of peace, you plan war. I couldn't even marry the woman I love without you scheming a battle, and I can't even fully enjoy my honeymoon with Lichette because you're plotting war while everyone else is wishing for peace."

I am sorta pissed off now. Seriously. I tried to make peace, and your side decided to ignore it. So fuck you. My offers come rarely. You will learn to treasure them as they should be. You, And your wife, decide not to have peace, and then have the Temerity, The Audacity, The un-mitigated GALL! To blame me? Fuck off.

Don't forget they've violated numerous laws, rights, and freedoms of your nation while within it's borders. They're lawbreakers and must be brought in. RESPECT MAH AUTHORITAH

Ignoring the "it's," I think most of us have stayed out of misko, which is the only place I know of where misko actually rules anything.

Quote from: Dirg on October 29, 2012, 11:20:47 pm

"Ha! Your offer of peace was basicly enslavement of Lichette, and we couldn't even sit down for that because your minions where continuing hostilities while you just planned to kill her anyways."

So, When I make a peace offer, it's bad, and is certainly a trap. But when YOU Make a peace offer, I'm a asshole for not accepting? I will NOT be made the aggresor here! I need a better PR agent. I mean, I am being made fun of here! And Hostilities? as opposed to your side? Whcih was kind and gentle and did not at all continue attacking?

Yes, because you're an evil guy who stated the "trap" in the press release. You ARE the aggressor, and while the lichette's side was sometimes hostile it was usually in self-defense.

Quote from: Dirg on October 29, 2012, 11:41:20 pm

Every other faction wants peace Misko, the only thing you're gonna achieve is getting yourself killed.

Ok, by definition that's untrue. Most of the other factions are stumbling around madly. Drunken fools? Spying on me. Lichette? Fuckign you.  Omnicidalists? there on my side in a battle against the universe, so tell me, which factions man? The Royal "we" is see.

Omnicidalists never work out in the long run, they're like driving out a mouse by setting the kitchen on fire. The Moderates are trying to work out peace, and I'm not sure about the others.

I'll finish catching up later.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on October 29, 2012, 10:53:26 pm

The GM's stuck on realism

I get it. You don't like this. We've covered this, you've already complained about it twice on this page alone, and I've already sent you private messages about when you've complained about it in the past.

Stop posting complaints about the entire premise of this thread. If you don't like it, then go away.

That wasn't a complaint. It was a comment.
Now that we're getting out of the bumbling failures, it's getting good. I'm interested to see how this ends.

I think it would be cool if our mad scientist was physically capable, lets spend some time encouraging Gilbert.

Sue, why not?

First off: slowly accumulate and hide a hoard of thermit. It's reasonably safe and you can get the ingredients without raising much suspicion, if you operate carefully.
We will need the stuff later, to open locks, destroy evidence,  get back at out enemies' cars and houses and to stop pursuers during car chases.

Uh, right now we're camping. Wait until we get back to make probably-illegal explosives.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on October 29, 2012, 10:48:55 pm

Quote from: SoHowAreYou on October 29, 2012, 10:19:21 pm

Genetic telekinesis rates very high on the profit scale but it is something that will not be easily reached, and a weak form would be very good in the later portions of the game, however with the ability to control magnetism and EM radiation and psychology and neurology mind reading, and later control are good late middle early endgame goals. Your success is based on competition, viability and profitability.

Note to self: In this universe, genes are magical. Research ASAP.

Or maybe they are not. Anyway, if people are capable of sending brainwaves/ reading minds with their own, I want to be able to take them out with a portable MRI. Same technology, more or less. It should work.

Telekinesis =/= Telepathy
Telekinesis is moving stuff with your mind.

Well, Nixon got us into China, and The Kaisar was extrordinairaly competent when it came to forging political alliances. Wasn't alken bout ethics. It's the philosophy of putting aside Ideology to achieve a aim. Something YOU should look into.

You know what works well? Having your people WANT to serve you. Fewer rebellions than if you force them.
You know what does that well? A good, just rule.
You know that you're not doing?
Any of that.

Thats the thing. He CAN'T succeed on any roll to destroy the universe. That includes using/convincing someone else.

I know that. Does my character?

Also, Great, he wouldn't destroy. Just purge life from. Meaning us.

...That's better...how?

~laugh~ "We're safe enough. Xan couldn't destroy the universe if he was a god."

I suspect he'll try to use the power of one who can...

"Hello there. Who are you and what are you doing?"
Chase figure if he runs, counterstrike if he attacks. Otherwise, chat.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on October 29, 2012, 10:37:31 pm

Quote from: misko27 on October 29, 2012, 10:03:42 pm

"You just like opposing me for the hell of it, don't you? You get some sort of sick kick from messing with me huh? Never heard of Real Politik huh? Would rather let this continue, instead of fighting him. Just to get your petty insult in. If you are not going to oppose him, I will."

>Continue attack on Envoy's position. Unleash the Ion Cannon Brigade and Anti-matter Grenadiers if necessary.
>What Affair? Nope. Never had a affair. Lies. I loved my wife, and she'd tell you if she wasn't, dead.
>Sabotage Dirg's lovemaking as revenge for Lichette's pettiness. Unleash the Laxatives.
>Send over a Comm droid to The Brown envoy and see what he wants.

Realpolitik? Okay, Adolf Misko...
No, wait, you probably wouldn't get the sarcasm. NOT okay. No copying Nazis, I won't allow it!
Go ahead and anger the guy who kills heroes in one shot while casually enjoying a tea party. I don't care. Just watch out for the fine china, that stuff's expensive.

First off, Real politik was invented by Kaisar Wilhelm. Espoused by Nixon. Motherfucker.

I am. I tied with him last turn. Watch me.

Kaisar was better than Hitler, but mainly because of his replacing genocide with extra incompetence. And Nixon was probably the worst president of the 20th century, at least *cough* Watergate *cough*
If you're basing your strategy on one made by a German renowned for his incompetence and espoused by the only American president to resign, you should rethink it...

"You just like opposing me for the hell of it, don't you? You get some sort of sick kick from messing with me huh? Never heard of Real Politik huh? Would rather let this continue, instead of fighting him. Just to get your petty insult in. If you are not going to oppose him, I will."

>Continue attack on Envoy's position. Unleash the Ion Cannon Brigade and Anti-matter Grenadiers if necessary.
>What Affair? Nope. Never had a affair. Lies. I loved my wife, and she'd tell you if she wasn't, dead.
>Sabotage Dirg's lovemaking as revenge for Lichette's pettiness. Unleash the Laxatives.
>Send over a Comm droid to The Brown envoy and see what he wants.

Realpolitik? Okay, Adolf Misko...
No, wait, you probably wouldn't get the sarcasm. NOT okay. No copying Nazis, I won't allow it!
Go ahead and anger the guy who kills heroes in one shot while casually enjoying a tea party. I don't care. Just watch out for the fine china, that stuff's expensive.