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I guess you got lucky with killing that one scout. I suppose it was a squad leader, and killing him caused the siege to be broken.

My guess, too.

I doubt it.
Vampires don't make armor out of victims and elves in elven settlements tend to be surrounded by elves.

Any other evidence? If not, try unleashing a nearby zombie or something and see what happens.

Thought it was something like that.

The pirates could easily fly around... and we're probably bigger than the beacon, so we'd need to get some distance past the beacon to get cover...

(Out of curiosity, why is the jump beacon so big?)

Wait, we were originally talking about levers...

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on October 27, 2012, 01:49:02 pm

Quote from: Criptfeind on October 27, 2012, 01:38:57 pm

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on October 27, 2012, 06:55:21 am

You mean the guy who needs to understand the island so he can make the best choices, as opposed to the guys who have nothing they need to do?

What makes you think this is the case? Once again you seem to be mistaking the overseer for some sorta leader. The overseer is not the leader. His job is to oversee plebs. The leader is the bureaucrat, which is a faceless nameless none entity that sees all that happens.

You mean that he can give good orders without knowing the island; someone who oversees plebs isn't a leader; and the term "overseer" is never used for a leading position?
Your interpretation is possible, but I doubt it. Let's hear ebbor's thoughts on the subject...

Quote from: Wikipedia

Overseer literally means:
 1.One who keeps watch over and directs the work of others, especially laborers

On this forum, the term overseer often means the unspecified leader of a dwarven settlement. Literal meanings don't mean much; hippopotamus means something like "river horse," and how much does it resemble a horse? Also, hippos aren't restricted to rivers.

But if you say that's all the overseer does...send whoever IS the leader along on the exploration trip, instead.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on October 27, 2012, 06:55:21 am

You mean the guy who needs to understand the island so he can make the best choices, as opposed to the guys who have nothing they need to do?

What makes you think this is the case? Once again you seem to be mistaking the overseer for some sorta leader. The overseer is not the leader. His job is to oversee plebs. The leader is the bureaucrat, which is a faceless nameless none entity that sees all that happens.

You mean that he can give good orders without knowing the island; someone who oversees plebs isn't a leader; and the term "overseer" is never used for a leading position?
Your interpretation is possible, but I doubt it. Let's hear ebbor's thoughts on the subject...

Quote from: Thecard on October 27, 2012, 12:35:25 pm

Also, they're chopping trees.  What could they fuck up about that?  If a tree falls on them, they're probably too stupid to be useful.

You're talking about the scum of the streets, most of which haven't even seen an axe, let alone a tree.

Worst that can happen is the French revolution, or releasing a Cuthulian horror.

French-style revolutions don't happen in a day, and Cthulhu doesn't live in trees.

Set up good relations with the dwarves when they come!