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One tile for one creature is an abstraction that does not need to be visually or physically accurate in order to have fun with the game. It's been the same in ADOM, NetHack, Angband, and Rogue. It looks sort of goofy that a kitten is the same "size" as a troll, and it's up to the Adams bros to change that if they want to. I think one tile per creature is fine how it is, as someone who likes roguelikes a lot.

Quote from: TopHat on September 26, 2012, 03:39:41 pm

WEAPONIZING THE MOON, WEAPONIZING THE MOON...

BINGO! We threaten to demolish moon or crash it into earth.
Just demolishing / stealing it would muck up the tides, etc.

This. This this this x10000. We could just borrow a few billion from China and use it to destroy them with there very own moon! Im for this idea.

Open fire.

Been reading through, and just caught up to my first post. It's insane. Also, sorry, raptorfangamer.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on September 26, 2012, 05:25:23 pm

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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on August 12, 2012, 07:34:38 am

Excellent. So we only need to define inter-species hybrids and figure out if the main races (here defined as dwarves, elves, humans, and goblins) are one highly-differentiated species (like domestic dogs), four species (there are separate species MUCH more similar than elves and dwarves), or what.

What about the possibility that they're connected by a "chain" of closeness? One species is close enough to another, which is close enough to another, and so on.
For example Elf -> Human -> Dwarf -> Goblin (as an example). So in this chain elves could breed with humans, who could breed with dwarves, who could breed with goblins. An elf could never breed with a dwarf or a goblin, but maybe an elf-human hybrid could breed with a dwarf, or even a dwarf-goblin hybrid.

Also, what about sentients that aren't part of the major civilizations? Even if it wouldn't happen normally, I can imagine benefits to forcing out dwarf-beastmen hybrids for their predatory nature or amphibious merdwarves. It would introduce a whole new category of crimes against nature.

I'm not sure if species work like that. I suppose there's no reason they couldn't, but I can't think of why they should. If it works like that, we could discuss that.
And we could also discuss kobolds, trolls, or animalmen breeding with the four main races, but it seems improbable.

Good point, I guess it's conceivable to me that it could work like that but I have no idea if it actually does. Another idea would be making some sentients highly differentiated members of the same species, but not all of them of the same species. I have no idea what the actual groups would be, but for example humans and elves, and maybe even dwarves, are at least relatively similar; maybe they could be organized into one species and other senients are organized with roughly similar sentients into other species? You'd have to figure out how to organize them of course, but it might be better than an "all one species or all different species" approach to sentients.