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Not true; you should mention, just to check, but some things still SHOULD NOT happen, no matter what kind of DF you are using.

Well, for starters, you'll be able to deal with vampires more simply...but, for now, justice is mostly a way for petty nobles to try and get control over your fort. I'd advise setting up a couple ropes near a food stockpile and a well to keep your mayor from punching dwarves who can't make earrings or whatever, especially if you have a woodcutter, miner, or militiadwarf who makes lots of friends and/or was selected as baron.

Maybe it could be something like husks or werebeasts--once you bite them (a la werebeast), they get a bunch of modifications from the interaction (a la husk).

I like any idea that allows you to tell your little furry alcoholics to do something instead of...um...not helping out. Approval, especially for the "Escort" order. Notably, I'd like to suggest that a squad can be told to escort anyone who leaves a given burrow, say to go outside and cut wood in a dangerous area.

Well, we are getting magic someday and dwarven maigic is going to manifest itself through their works, but what you propose...
It's somewhat, well, ill-thought. Those pick throwing tricks are just ridiculous, armor using, architecture and most of other crafts already do what you propose, yet thats results of gradual improvement, not sudden ascension.
Those beekeeping and carpentry features are more appropriate for the elves.
Smelting feats aren't quite realistic too, I guess it's more than enough that any dwarf can forge with his bare hands.

The pick-throwing was just because it felt stupid to say "For the mining legendary feat, we should do what already happens!" I believe I included a note to roughly that effect. Same with smithing.
Armor using does what I suggest because armor doesn't really slow you down.
For architecture and the others, I mean a separate happy thought, from the joy of looking on the works of a master. Think Sistine Chapel.
The complaints for beekeeping and carpentry are valid. The "summon bee swarms by whatever method you get hives of bees to not sting you and live in a rock hive" thing sounds really cool to me, but I'm interested to hear alternate suggestions.

I believe they should be called legendary because of quality of their work, not do weird stuff because they are called legendary.

You're getting the idea backwards. They don't "do weird stuff" because they're legendary, they're legendary because their skill, strength, or what-have-you allow them to do things which are impossible to normal dwarves.

Quote from: Muddy Mudstone on June 23, 2012, 04:10:13 pm

I just found it an interesting exercise. I reckon if a committee argued back and forth about these in minute detail, for about a year, they could turn out a viable list at the end of it.

What about scrapping comitee AND list?
Right now, we have seen tons of proposals and every single one has arguable portions where people disagree with order of names.
I hereby suggest simple number. There is no in-world reason to map levels to discriptive names, it is all for players sake and for players simple numeric level conveys information with comfort and speed.
I'd like my Carpenter to be called Impressive because he impressed lots of dwarves (lots of quality beds from him for example), not because he is L8 Carpenter - for that, game can just call him Level 8 and we can save adjective hunt in thesaurus which provides gems like "Flawless Woodutter" or "High Master Wood Burner" or "Legendary Miller".
I want my millers to be legendary because there are stories about them circulating the world.

I want my legendary millers to have stories about them circulating the world, but I don't see what naming their skill level as "Legendary" does to detract from that. Again, I suggest that skill names get added to the "raws" (or, more probably, the init files, but that's nitpicking). That way everyone can have their own cake and...not eat it, that gets into some other metaphorical issues, but you get my point.

I don't mind at all. I have a netbook, and don't find it irritating to use the numbers on those occasions that I need to exploit diagonal speed bonuses.

Heh, I think my demiliches will be contenders...*evilgrin*