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Both goblins and your modded race can exist in the same world. Maybe the goblins aren't being generated in the worlds you happened to generate, or the goblins are being killed off. If you know the gobbos are being generated, check legends to see if they're dying from fighting all of the time.

For various reasons, I want to be able to mod a playable race to send traders to fortresses without having all the abovegroundey common domestics. What would I need to do to do so? What creatures could I add the pack animal token to to guarantee that they would have some of them amed with [USE_ANY_PET_RACE] and [USE_CAVE_ANIMALS]?

[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:UNTHINKABLE]

These are from the dwarven ethics. Any gladiator-style fights would probably need to be nonlethal and require volunteers to follow them.

Quote from: Jeoshua on May 24, 2012, 10:59:34 am

Have you ever had a family member go overseas into war and then die?

I assure you, it's not a "happy thought".

I've lost family.  I've also walked in on friends successfully committing suicide.  In neither case did I completely lose my mind from lack of hope and anything else to live for.  I might have if I was already a fragile wreck of a man, no stranger to despair.

Dwarves are all alcoholics, and well-known for being neither touchy-feelie kinds of people nor good at expressing emotions positively. Besides, how many forts have you had where your dwarves aren't "no stranger to despair?"

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on May 23, 2012, 10:16:18 pm

And I'm a bit doubtful as to the ability to locate aluminum at all (aside from bauxite, of course).

It's only the third most abundant element in the Earth's Crust, after Oxygen and Silicon.  Should be real difficult to find.  Pure Aluminum is rare, but Aluminum Oxides are so abundant as to be the basis of most of the mineral's known to man.

Seriously look it up.

Let me rephrase that:
I'm a bit doubtfulas to the ability to locate aluminum useable with pre-1400s technology at all.

Yes, it's rare.  But it is found natively and without a significant stretch of the imagination one would assume that the fantasy race known as "dwarves" would be able to mine for it and melt it down.  There is no concept of what kind of smelting technology is present in DF, so to say that it "should really be unsmeltable" seems like a massive, and presently unsupportable, assumption.  Small clusters; yes.  Remove, rename or reduce price; no need to.

Why do so many sources have to be contradictory?


I gave up long ago on trying to convince anyone to my point of view. After 9 pages of argument, those who have changed their POV have been few and mostly towards the beginning. We're getting to the point where we should be trying to figure out some kind of compromise. That's what I was trying to do.

This is a bit of a complicated question.

1. Toady, do you have any plans as to when (i.e. which caravan arc release) you will reintroduce dark fortresses, mountain halls, and forest retreats?
2. If not, what kinds of things will you add before reintroducing them? I recall you saying that forest retreats would probably wait for multi-tile trees, but are there similar "requirements" for before you re-add in mountain halls and dark fortresses?
3. Once you add them back in, how much will mountain halls, dark fortresses, and forest retreats benifet from the sorts of changes you made to towns?

Add those to things I need to research if I have any extra free time.

I still think non-justicey Warrior Orders are a good idea.