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I'm starting to feel like humans are OP, at least early game.

They definitely are, now that I think about it. It's like they're two colonies that just have to start on the same tile.

- everyone is so powerful, combat is almost arbitrary. enemies may seem overpowered, but really, that's what it takes to avoid them being blasted to bits almost immediatly. It's magical girls fighting evil - just talking evil out of it kinda destroys any suspension of disbelieve. Ra just folding like that, Dumah rather easily agreeing with simply letting Shysm go... Sometimes things just do what they want because they can, and have little reason to actually listen to you in the first place. Imagine WW2 as a plot. Hitler had the army to start a war, wanted to start a war, and it took an enormous effort to put an end to that - and sometimes the effort is what the PCs have to do. When an enemy is too strong to simply blast to pieces, finding a way is what goes - and nope, just talking hitler out of that kinda stuff was not really an option.

On the other hand...well, you kinda hit the nail on the head there. To deal with Dumah, Shys'm just had to go with them. There wasn't any good way to deal with them--and since the game was being run by rag, there was nothing any of us could really do to change that.
The enemies in my planned plot are in the happy medium--they're not so weak they'll fall immediately, but they also aren't so strong that you have literally no choice but to go along with what they want.

- contrived plot devices..I am not sure which one you mean. Haven't seen many McGuffin things around yet, except maybe the Menhir thing - and that wasn't too bad. That being said, is this not a game of tropes? A bit cliche wont hurt. I am suprised nobody did any *find the 7 crystals of McGuffinness* yet, and wouldn't even complain if they do
. nothing bad with cliche

You misunderstand me. I'm talking more about...well, this is more or less what I'm concerned about. Things that don't make logical sense, but happen.

- hehe, leaving a mark on the game afterwards is what I am aiming at. it's a bit problematic, because frankly, most characters are kinda like teflon. they simply don't care. Best example is Kyle, I guess, but Jaque is also a good example. The characters simply don't quite care enough, because usualy they are simply too strong and, excuse me, too flattly written to care. And of course when you try to actually *make* them care, you get instantly bitched at for doing so. I am pretty sure that whatever you have planned will leave a lot less of an impression on everyone than you originaly planned - as far as storytelling goes, rotmg is a difficult medium, like trying to grow algae in vinegar rather than water. I am sure it will be exactly the same thing for me too, which is why I am already contacting players to connect their characters to the plot

Sometimes, to make a difference you need to not give them a choice. Do something that changes the world around them. Destroy/Conquer their hometown, maybe. Or connect to one of their motivations, something they want to do that they haven't been able to.

LordBucket's idea is better.

+1

I certainly hope to. At the least, I won't be running overpowered monsters, using contrived plot devices, or not leaving any mark on the game afterwards.

KJ stops trying to format this like a movie script as it's more trouble than it's worth.

Quote from: Akroma on February 15, 2014, 05:13:01 pm

just wait until my plot goes on. it has 12 chapters. the first chapter alone is in 3 parts

Why is it so long?

He wants to be one of the cool kids.

Remember, Akroma, it's not the size of the plot, it's how you use it. I could probably describe my plot in only 2-3 sentences, but it will doubtless do at least two neat RP things no other plot has.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on February 15, 2014, 05:44:26 pm

Quote from: Empiricist on February 15, 2014, 05:43:14 pm

Do imaginary numbers count? Or non-integers?

Are imaginary numbers between 1 and 100?

I don't know, are they?

No. They aren't even in the line. i is a jerk like that.

As best I can tell it's made of undead flesh. Which should be flammable.

Black biometal, maybe?