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Why not? Vampirism is permanent.

Remove all ability of the parent civ to tame any pack animals.

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Mind uploading to the DFFD? MediaFire doesn't seem to be working right now...Not for me, at least.

NOT_LIVING pretty much just makes things not turn into undead.
NOT_AGING, but not NOT_LIVING, will prevet death by old age.
Bones are a body part. You can't make body parts in reactions.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on May 05, 2012, 05:40:09 pm

Also bear in mind that, if we're talking about technologically/socially "inferior" races like the animalmen, there is historical precedent for treating them as a resource (enslaving them, that is), as well as for treating them like people (sometimes even inter-marriage) and genocide. Dwarves are against slavery, so they'd probably tend towards integration or extermination rather than subjugation, but that should be more a matter of ethics/unhappy thoughts/whatever than a game mechanic.

Ethics/Unhappy thoughts/Whatever are game mechanics, however, (presuming most normal definitions of "Whatever",) and so that is a statement that needs a better description. 

Anything that makes animalpeople, etc, more than resources should be based more in the mechanics of dwarven psychology than in those of actually allying with them.

Anyway, it's Personality Rewrite stuff, but making a xenophobia personality trait or derivative of their cultural ethics (probably with cross-pollenation, if possible). 
Likewise, some cultures having high cultural pride does not by any means preclude others from having low cultural pride and being willing to adopt any new practice that seems to come from a "superior culture".  In fact, you could just call it a "reticence to change" and apply it both ways, as the marker of dwarven xenophobia and how upset they will get at "the beastmen polluting our proud dwarven culture" just as much as the animalmen will see dwarven intervention as "brutish outsiders with no respect for the old ways". 
Conversely, it may be opposed by (or if simply at the low end of the spectrum of the xenophobia personality trait) some sort o cultural curiosity. 

My point was that many cultures were very receptive to "greater" cultures coming in and destroying theirs. Sure, humans, goblins, and probably elves would resist assimilation, as would some groups of other sentients, but many would tend to flock to a chance to enjoy the "soft, easy" life afforded by dwarven civilization.

We are supposed to be exploring the game not as some sort of deity, but as the consensus of the bureaucracy of the fortress itself.  To be subjected to pressures both from the animalmen and from the dwarven populace over every decision that you do or don't make, with the necessity to please every faction of each side could make the game's internal politics an interesting one.
... Suddenly, I'm merging this idea very heavily with the ideas I've had for expanding Class Warfare...

I was fairly certain that that's why our debate, and that of others, has been going on for so long in this thread.

I gotta say, I'm starting to warm up to some of the more complex things mentioned. Others... not so much.

Mind explaining what you do and don't like?

Now I just hope that the werelizard dwarf that visited me before and ran off as the transformation worn off, will sneak back as a migrant 

Fixed that for you. Seriously, I wish I had a were-thing migrant. Especially if it was a female. I'd lock up migrants in the same room as her and imagine I told them to watch her during her "ime of the month..."
Werecritter soldiers. Sweet...

If it happens instantly, then how do magma pistons displace magma?

They teleport the magma on top of them. When a cave-in hits a fluid, it causes the fluid to teleport on top.

Guys? A bit of help?

I suppose I should offer some guesses. Do grates block light/outdoorsiness? If not, could I try using pressure to shove water through the grates? Would that be bad for the grates? Or maybe...um...yeah, I got nothing.

1. If you have flying pets, you can try siccing them on the gobbos, but that might not work. Dwarves can't ride anything yet, though.

2. No, but you can try luring them into a tunnel.

3. Never faced flying siegers before. In fact, aside from a few FD crtters, never had a siege. Except that ettin siege, that was horrible, especially with all of the suddenly-revealed ambushes.