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Er...do you want to know how to not be at war with elves you are at war with, or how to go to war with elves you are not at war with?

The first may be impossible, the second requires: offering elves wood, stealing all of their goods (to offer to the next caravan), killing their merchants, and possibly modding in elven diplomats so you can make (and ignore) deals on how many trees you will cut down and then kill them.

I dunno about killing Rome, but have you ever heard of lead poisoning?

Of course, with the amount of alcohol dwarves drink, they might have a resistance to toxins.

The disagreements here are because we want to try and balance gameplay with realism. In this case, those are somewhat mutually exclusive...unless the caverns give great rewards.

I like the idea of cavern creatures and plants having exotic properties, especially if incorporated with forgotten beasts and a magic system. (Why is this leather armor so much better than that set of masterwork steel?...Oh, it's from that giant feathered slug that was killed a few years back.) Maybe fruits that heal or buff dwarves, or cursed trees whose wood can be made into beds that slowly turn dwarves into monsters (probably monsters that are much, much stronger and fiercer than dwarves), or a cave rat that can be stewed into a delicious meal but is only found near some large, dangerous beast (incentive to capture such creattures as well).

And adamantine and other super-metals? Make them into more...interesting...forms. Maybe some only exist where a blessed beast has spilt its blood (leading to farming said metals by dropping such monsters, likely forgotten beasts, into danger-room-like setups...), or only in the walls of a cave dragon's nest, or as the glowing walls of a passage leading to a plug of an even more powerful and valuable ore that leads, in a random number of tiles to...well, where cotton candy leads to currently.

Speaking of which, I want more ways to find the circus. Maybe I could have a priest summon clowns, but if I have him summon a mighty clown when said summoner is too low of skill the clown might create a portal to the circus? Or a deep pit with a cotton-candy floor that I can mine out, leading to the circus, or sending a dwarf too deep in a winding passage of...erm...whatever the stone that makes up the circus walls is called in the circus-based terminology (circus tent?) mixed in with pockets of cotton-candy-type metal, but even better than CC, or...


And, back on topic, making the surface more dangerous would help the original issue.

Geysers.

Been suggested twenty-three gazillion times, against dwarven ethics,maybe if/when Toady adds playable goblins, use the search bar, etc etc.

What, edit dwarves to have the [MARRIES_FAST] tag? Wait, that doesn't exist.

Maybe DFhack has a tool to make lovers marry, but other than that I think you have to pray the RNG likes you and lock the lucky lovers into a room with a well and lots of food.

Can your weavers/herbalists reach the plants? Are the dwarves in burrows? Did you wall off part of the caverns and designate plants/see webs in that area?

And no, plant designations stay and webs have no designations, so you don't need to constantly redesignate.