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Hmm... Now that I think about it, her two modes should do something for her other than allow her to use two skills. Should they also buff her in some capacity?

Perhaps, but how much and in what way?

Quote from: wolfchild on June 02, 2014, 02:10:28 am

Quote from: smurfingtonthethird on June 01, 2014, 06:31:24 pm

That is a loooooot of buffs.

is that about Stella?, cause most of em are both positive and negative

True, you're only OP in the right environments. Heh.

Hard to tell, isn't it?

frankly, Kyle ignores any and all of the balancing rules. The armor is frankly broken, and by simply ignoring that powers run of the mag stat, you minmaxed Kyle to absurdity - exactly the kind of stuff you have been complaining about. Or was it when you said "there will always be minmaxing" you meant "I will always be minmaxing"? If you want to godmod, v3 might not be the game for you. Everybody plays by the same rules.

Pretty hard to pin down what, exactly, is unbalanced, isn't it? Oh, you know Kyle's unbalanced, but you can't give him specific examples of how he can tone down the power level while keeping the Kyle he knows and loves.

Again, if we were taking a page from GURPS as far as balancing abilities goes, it would be easier to figure these kinds of questions out.

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Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on June 01, 2014, 09:43:32 pm

Quote from: PrivateNomad on June 01, 2014, 08:18:10 pm

It fires a beam of energy particles, not actual matter. And plus the energy is moving at 0.5c, but that's still pretty fast. Fast enough to not be able to be dodged.

As to the first bit, it matters little at those speeds. Unless you're firing neutrinos, but who would make a neutrino-based weapon?

Well, if you have a rifle that fires a lethal dose of neutrinos that really good aim/intel, you'd be able to snipe people through the planet Probably not the most efficient but it certainly does have a degree of style.

Not exactly easy, though. Assuming that you'r sniping that person from 2/3 of the planet's diameter away, the required neutrinos increase with the square of the distance (reasonable, since that's how most things roll), and that you're firing the neutrinos in about a 0.1-degree arc (unreasonable, but I need a number), you'd still need about 1.7_E-13 supernovae to kill someone with neutrinos like that. It might not sound like much, but supernovae are freaking big. Assuming the same light:neutrino ratio of a supernova, your weapon would be brighter from literally a million miles away than detonating a nuclear weapon pressed against your eyeball (WARNING! Do not try at home). (Assuming xkcd is precisely correct and a supernova from an AU away is 10⁹ times brighter than said nuke, they have equal brightness at 1.212 million miles.)
In case you haven't figured it out yet, my point is that whatever you're using to generate that many neutrinos is probably going to be more devastating than the neutrinos themselves. (Kinda like 500-mph winds.)

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Spoiler: Stella maybe? (click to show/hide)

Not really. She has blue scales, said scales cover her whole body when she's even partly transformed, and that kind of expression and set of implied actions is completely out-of-character for her.

Wait, people had multiple active characters? That's a pain, especially if it gets metagamey.

You have no idea. At least we avoided getting metagamey for the most part.

Hmm... I wonder if true magic-based enchantments could be powered with doses of Stella's blood, specifically magical bullets, forming something similar to a Raufoss Mk211 thus using both its corrosive effects and magical properties to enhance the bullet's damage.

That depends. Is the person who is taking the doses doing so with consent, or is he in the hospital with horrible burn wounds watching as his darkest secrets get uncovered by some anonymous stranger?

I think for the setting, every player should write down 1-3 tidbits for stuff about the settings they'd like so, with explanations as to why they make sense etc, and then we compile them. If everyone adds something, already the setting becomes rather fleshed out.

Alright.

hmm three points, I wanna do something with the dragons but that was GWG's plot-line, lemme think for a bit

I'd like to hear your ideas.

a) Shape-changers are required to register as such and must carry identification for all of their forms where identification is required, if an unrestricted shapechanger they must settle on a base form for ID and be chipped.

Ooh, good one.

I think shape-shifting registration falls under magic registration.

It's a different, probably more restrictive registration.
It's...um...I hate to use this example, but it's like the difference between having a criminal record and being on the sex offender registry.

Wait, wouldn't people only need registration for magic usage and not for possessing magic? I mean, if they don't use their magic, no one's going to find out and enforce the registration nor would there be much of a need to.

It's one of those laws that's on the books but pretty much unenforceable. You're still gonna get busted if you use magic without registering yourself, and most people are going to be getting registered anyways.

not just for me, but also for PN, Cado, Usec, Kansa, Wolfchild, Sanure, Projeck, GWG (I would assume?)...

You assume? I'm trying to add in a system for the express purpose of making the acquisition of balanced powers and perks, and you have to assume?

As a child I didn't have a dramatis persona that I had been using for two years before the stick incident.

If those horribly unbalanced stats are a vital part of your dramatis persona, your persona is a Mary Sue.

"Well, that didn't work like I planned."

"Does it ever?"

Same goes for dodging bullets. Or, at close range, pretty much anything except an axe or a fist.

It fires a beam of energy particles, not actual matter. And plus the energy is moving at 0.5c, but that's still pretty fast. Fast enough to not be able to be dodged.

As to the first bit, it matters little at those speeds. Unless you're firing neutrinos, but who would make a neutrino-based weapon?
As to the second, the trick to dodging something moving at half the speed of light is much the same as dodging something moving half the speed of sound: Keep an eye on the firer and don't be where he's aiming.

Damnit, I was halfway through my own post on gurps. Whatever, I put 20 minutes into it, I'm finishing it and poisting it anyway. 

I've been there. Except that I usually finish the post before noticing that I got ninja'd.
Your post certainly gives a more in-depth look at the GURP System than mine did. Though I'd like to note that, if you're offering more than one kind of challenge, "putting every point into Strength" or somesuch isn't too helpful. My brother likes to sink every point he has into skills like Guns and various Melee Weapon skills, plus some related advantages and such, and he typically ends up being worthless at most everything except combat. (That might also be because he tends to antagonize NPCs, but...well...the min/maxing doesn't help.)
Another note: Angle makes GURPS sound complicated, and it is...if you use all the rules. Pretty much no one does. Pick and choose the rules you need. At the core, there's just character creation (in my opinion, the gem of the system) and "roll 3d6 and try to go low".

That's it? No kind of resolution or anything?
What was even the point of that?

OY! SANURE!

((Are Kyo and Will still sparring?))

because when I brought up the system currently discussed, most people commented it was a good idea, while those who commented on gurps mostly seemed to not like it. In short, stop trying to make gurps happen, it's not going to happen.

Almost no one has commented on GURPS, and absolutely no one has commented on the GURPS-assisted version of your system* that I've been proposing ever since you fleshed out yours. Moreover, no one's actually given reasons for disliking GURPS. And that really bugs me. It's like you don't even care what I say.

*Which, to summarize, basically has us using GURPS to figure out what kind of set of abilities and perks would be balanced to give a character.

How long does mana take to regenerate? Is it a fairly quick thing or are players going to be waiting hours?

Hours. This was answered a while back.