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I embarked on a savage, evil glacier, intending to try a challenge.
I got a challenge, all right. A blizzard man showed up right away. "Ah, well, they won't be more aggressive than those lions in my other fort, or than those zombies in that 31.18 fort I had a while back."

I was wrong.

Two weeks, in-game, after embark, it had slain both dogs, my turkey gobbler, my brewer, and my cook, and was working on my expedition leader/bookkeeper/manager/broker (although collapsing from exhaustion a bit). This gave it the name of "Sisterstame."


Whoa.
_Scary.

Everything. Whales, I've seen and can confirm. Probably even blobs, but I haven't killed one except in adventure mode, where I can't look at critter descriptions postmortem.

I'm wondering the same thing. Once someone figures out a formula, it should be put on the wiki or something.
Once we figure out how long it takes for one species's eggs to hatch, that should be put on the wiki. Maybe it's already there, but I don't see it.

I like this general idea, and how thoroughly you described it.

A few thoughts and expansions:

Alternatives to Religion: After a while, "scientific" belief systems or other ones that have no deities may come into being. If there are active gods in the area, this will not occur; if an active deity brings its power to the area, these alternatives will dry up.
Crusades: A group of people with high devotion and decent combat skills in a fairly militant religion will move to kill a group of people who violate their beliefs. For instance, followers of a deity of stone, metal, and war that saw trees as an abomination might purge a fortress of all carpenters and bowyers (woodcutters and wood burners are allowed to live), burn down an elven forest (can you say WAR?), or destroy all wooden houses and other buildings in a nearby human settlement. Obviously, peaceful and pacifistic religions would need quite a provocation to start a crusade--but if they do (say, a peaceful vegetarian religion that is against taming animals watching a large group of elves and tame war elephants and bears destroying a nearby human town and eating a bunch of the slain), this transgression will be great enough that a mighty crusade of farmers and soapmakers and such will rise up and attempt to force the offender to never again violate the precepts.
Holy War: Two differing religions hate each other enough that they send crusades against each other frequently. If they are both in the same entity, this will cause massive deaths; one or both religions might be banned, leading to hidden cults performing inquisitions on the members of the other religion and on the leaders that made it all possible. If two people from the opposing religions saw each other, they would instantly form a grudge against each other, and a fortress whose mayor is one of the opposing religions would sentence members of the other religion to extremely harsh punishments.
New Religions Form: Fortresses should be able to start new religions with FBs, maybe clowns, and definitely sufficiently awesome artifacts and/or high-value stuff (like, -cotton candy large serrated disk- or <<+cotton candy battleaxe+>> or something). These would have properties based off of the thing that spawned them-a religion created by an FB made of stone would consider stone to be sacred, one started around a worm FB would consider worms to be the most exalted of creatures, a religion started by an artifact shield would be based off of defense and peace, and a kobold cargo cult created by a cotton candy-crafted knife would be militant. (Try not to think of the religions created by a fell mood...)

I created a world with no cavern layers.
There were two civs, a kobold one and a dwarf one.
Due to an extra zero, the world genned 7500 years. It doesn't matter, though; it would be the same if it had 750 years, 75 years or even just 5 years.
Everyone starved within the first four or five years. Thousands of named animals in the historical figures page...less than a page of sentients.

I guess taking away caverns probably had something to do with it...but still, I can farm the surface, hunt, and raise animals without caverns-why can't worldgen dwarves?
And why does the early starving always occur around year 4 or 5?

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on April 14, 2011, 06:55:50 pm

Quote from: IT 000 on April 14, 2011, 06:28:34 pm

As far as training weapons go, they are currently very exploitable. Cutting down trees with wooden axes, danger rooms, and the like. So I would rather not have these expanded.

...I don't see how that follows. You can have wooden clubs, training hammers, and tree-cutting training axes all at the same time.

A training club, and a wooden club, I don't really see a difference. So why have both when you can just have the wooden club? It's just a matter of uses really, what is the use of training weapons now that dwarves no longer pin their sparing partner to the wall with their warhammer? Plus, I don't like the tree cutting training axes.

A. The difference between a training hammer and a wooden club is the difference between a training spear and a wooden menacing spike. More or less.
B. Okay...wooden club and training pike? It uses a different skill than spears, so it should also probably have a separate training weapon.
C. If you don't like the training axe bug...okay.

As far as training weapons go, they are currently very exploitable. Cutting down trees with wooden axes, danger rooms, and the like. So I would rather not have these expanded.

...I don't see how that follows. You can have wooden clubs, training hammers, and tree-cutting training axes all at the same time.

Well I've never seen the silk or cloth ones... I just had an image of a llama with a spikey do...

I've seen it in adventure mode.
Yeah, it's weird. No, it's unlikely to change. Dwarves like menacing spikes, even if they're more like big fuzzy bits of felt than like big pointy bits of OUCH!!