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Amen to that Gold.

To which?

Hainuwele has no magic either, it's a super power based on mind

It is?

Either statment.

What statements?

I'm busy doing math ferociously to see if Neferis has a shot in hell of performing her action.
I need two estimates: the contact area of her hands (strength is measured in force over area, so I need the area) and her strength compared to normal clay. Preferably in metric units.

Ooh, physics!

although if you can find a way to relate that to compressive strength, more power to ya!

Well...
The average human body has a volume around 70 liters, which is a thousand cubic centimeters, which is sadly not a cubic meter. However, 70 L=0.07 m³.
According to this, a whole cubic meter of clay (wet or dry) weighs well under a single ton. 0.07 ,³ would be around 120 kilograms. Several tons would be around 7,000 kg, or nearly 60 times what she should weigh.
Conclusion: Either Neferis is a lot bigger than anyone else in the group, or she is not made of anything resembling normal clay. (And, indeed, much denser than any mundane substance. With "mundane" substances including things like "solid hydrogen".)
And while I'm thinking about it...the bottom of my feet, rather large ones, probably have a surface area around (estimating) 250 square centimeters, give or take maybe 20%? Assuming Neferis has feet around that size, she would be balancing several tons on 250 square centimeters, for a pressure of 14 kilograms per square centimeter, or...Google doesn't know how to change pressures, apparently.

Annie and Wheatley could work rather well. Assuming of course they stop bothering ressembling human beings (since having consolidated distortions perfectly repiclate a human body requires so much power that it's practically impossible) and temporarily deconsolidate their bodies into high power tears in reality that destroy everything inside them short of souls.

...Let's call that "Plan F".

She weighs a couple metric tons, after all...

The quoted figure was "several".

<You know, @Projeck has previously justified Ashley's use of that paralysis katana due to the fact that her teleporting slash is supposed an automatic hit. Asariel was attacked by such but succeeded in evading it. Hence, it is indeed possible to react to such an attack.
Whilst it is true that it is instantaneous, a teleporter teleporting is something that may be anticipated, furthermore, her slash is not instant. I suspect that those factors are why Asariel could dodge it. However, as it is NOT an automatic hit, @Projeck's justification is now null and void. That is, Ashley's weapon usage no longer has to be restricted. Whilst firearms are an obvious choice, she has no established experience with them and it is rather unlikely that she does as otherwise she would be acting as a sniper and teleporting to various ideal locations.
Hence, my proposition is that she utilizes explosives and lethal blades rather than relying on that paralysis weapon.>

<Another nice thing about it is that it's nonlethal. Explosives don't really come in "no murder charges" variants.>
<Oh, and while I'm thinking about it, Kyle evidently has a crush on you.>

Look at the maps I put up. Like that one with green dots.

Artistic skill optional, man.

Quote from: Niccolo on February 04, 2014, 09:32:49 am

Quote from: BFEL on February 04, 2014, 08:31:30 am

((So what should our updated footnotes be? Felice is Medieval Neo, Thuun is Medieval Navy SEAL, what should our other teammates be? I suppose Lyu can be...Medieval...Pancake? ))

Thuun's not a SEAL, dude. You tried to hide from each demon that came by and all of them found you. Not exactly special ops material

((Not exactly my FAULT, I mean jeez, RtD man. Unless Stealth is some special art like magic that has to be worded a certain way or you just wiggle your bum at them ))

((It's not your, BFEL's, fault, but I still wouldn't trust Thuun to be able to sneak past a sleeping senior citizen.))

((I was actually considering RU cost, but that helps too. So 30-ish tokens all in all. Hell of a cost to prototype. Anton might have to get a prototyping grant from Simus after all.))

((Indeed.
I wish I could think of something as neat as Arty to prototype.))

"And having four arms is pretty advantageous when it comes to close combat, believe me."

That's the only use you can think of?

"I guess none of us are completely sane, so I count it lucky that his variety is harmless. Just ask Saint Milno." Jim chuckled to himself. Saint asked about Milno and the AM, and he thought about it. "I don't know what the deal between the two of them is. I guess Milno is one of the few people she respects enough to not kill when they ask her questions."

Assuming Saint* isn't telepathic, here's what he heard:

"I guess none of us are completely sane, so I count it lucky that [Lars's] variety is harmless. Just ask Saint Milno...I don't know what the deal between the two of them is. I guess Milno is one of the few people she respects enough to not kill when they ask her questions."

Saint may now think Lars is female. And violent.

Quote from: smurfingtonthethird on February 03, 2014, 02:59:54 pm

RU cost to plant some near maturity 'Bloater trees' (rapid fire seed exploding trees) near suitable air drop points.

Free.

Huh. They are native.

You accidentally erase your own credit card's magnetic strip. Way to go, Maglameo

I'm not sure which is more amusing, the (admittedly obvious) pun or the idea that we have credit cards now.

Quote from: Toaster on February 04, 2014, 12:26:34 pm

Oh man.  If I had any Flash skills I'd totally make a ER TD game.

The difficulty starts at impossible and then it ramps up.

So, kinda like XCOM?

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on February 04, 2014, 01:35:22 pm

Aw, that's a really cool impractical airplane.

Oh it's a real plane alright, except it was never outfitted with turrets. It had enough trouble flying on its own.

Oh. Yay.
That one was the flying aircraft carrier, right? Or am I thinking of something else?

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on February 04, 2014, 01:35:22 pm

Anyways, I've been considering if Grate would be willing to tinker for Simus. On one hand, it's nice to Simus, but on the other it's mean to Jim.

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Mind clarifying?

Which part?
I mean I've been considering having Grate make tinker things in Tinker for the next few days, since it would be nice to Simus (and Pyro), but on the other hand it's kind of ignoring Jim's authority and such.

Considering bloater trees are free to plant anywhere as we wish, we should spam em around possible enemy drop points.

I assume that there's a certain "but if you abuse this you'll regret it" clause.
But yes. And possibly some around other important points that frail people won't be passing by.

((Ahh, how does "Go to briefing room, talk to whoever" get turned into "Go to infirmary, talk to Simus"?  Can we retcon it so that I went to the briefing room, like my action said to do?))

Probably because Simus was in the infirmary. And is the one calling the mission.

((Yes, Serious, Saint's mistaking Jim for Steve IC.  Steve's the only synthflesh person Saint's seen, and he jumped to conclusions.))

What about Simus? Also there (I think), also synthflesh.

Quote from: piecewise on February 04, 2014, 12:53:14 pm

The video panels display the phrase "DISARM!"

((Clearly you should burn his arm off.))

+1

When designing combat aircraft, it's not an automatic "It can't have armour or it won't fly!" deal.
You have to strike a balance between manoeuvrability, size, armour, weapons, cost, etc. much like any other vehicle. It's true that it will probably have less armour then a tracked vehicle of the same size but that doesn't make it useless.

True enough, but it forces you to reconsider if flying is really that useful.

(yes I am aware it's a fake)

Aw, that's a really cool impractical airplane.


Anyways, I've been considering if Grate would be willing to tinker for Simus. On one hand, it's nice to Simus, but on the other it's mean to Jim.

Oh that will go down well. Lets have the adult give the RAGING abused kid a 'talking to'! That won't end with Dran's arms being torn off at all!

Of course not! Because for all of his rage, Derry is still a kid.
If the rest of the group agrees, he could be in some trouble, though. (Although so would we, for assaulting someone.)

Hm. Those are good ideas.

Enter Tactical Bargaining*. Begin attempting to hire shopkeeper as party member with a promise of, let's say, 5% of all coin drops plus an exclusivity agreement.