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"By the way, did you guys know there's a beach in this school?"

"Fuckin' creepy..." Calvin mutters, still trying to find something interesting.

1. "Inconsequential" and "Least Important" do NOT mean most important.

2. Sorry for being vague. I was trying to say that Will was working on doing what I said he would do earlier.

If we're going to metagame, let's not half-arse it. Anyone know how to make gunpowder?

"People around here implied you were smart, a good problem solver, but I am not sure why. These are people who have lived their entire life fearing the threats of the giants. Now they see one for the first time, and just because they wouldn't immediatly jump up and have a talk with him he threathens to crush one of their buildings?"

"If you'll notice, I started by trying talking. Again, what else would I do? Do you have some kind of hotline I could call to direct me to the proper authority? Perhaps an Ambassador-Signal?"

"On the side, you were adressing political matters, these are *farmers*. They don't even have the authority to adress that topic with you, why would any of them step forward if clearly I am the one to discuss this with? Had you just patiently asked again, surely someone would have told you to ask me, but no, you immediatly start threathening to crush a building."[/size]

"You ordered them specifically to ignore me, as they did. Again, what other choice did I have?"

No matter how unimportant that building may look to you, it houses a mother, a father and 5 children, all their belongings and all their food. Excuse me if I make the comparison, but destroying buildings to gain political attention is the approach a terrorist would choose.

((I'm going to ignore any references to Will threatening a house because THAT DID NOT EFFING HAPPEN (he chose some unimportant building, as I clearly effing stated).))

"What, exactly is going on?"
Arya is standing in the doorway of her backyard. Something tells you she is NOT happy.

"Hai brought hundreds of her people to take over your backyard, and ordered them to ignore me. She then accused me of trying to destroy a family's livelihood when I put my foot over this." Will gestures to the half-completed soaper's building or whatever.

No. Hainawele is inflating Will's actions to demonize Will. You're the one not understanding here.

When Akroma (and all of his characters) are complaining about an action Will would not have taken, as is clear from how it was stated...it's his fault, not his character's fault.

the city is not even fully build yet, they started with the important ones.

Then, wouldn't the least important building be one that isn't even complete yet?

just one family. excuse me, but I do not quite believe that it's okay to destroy the house and belongings of *just one* family just to force them to talk to you is quite in proportion
I mean, even if it's the smallest and poorest and least important family, it's still all their belongings

Several things.
1. Again, Will would not have chosen a house if there was a perfectly good half-completed soaper's workshop or something around.
2. Will would not have carried through on his threat, especially not on a house...
3. ...and if for some Shys'm-Caes-forsaken reason he had to, he would carefully put a hole in the roof rather than smash the whole house to the ground and grind it to dust.
4. Since the fingerlings are about 4 inches tall, the house would either be pretty puny or not one he could easily do the grind-to-dust thing on anyways. He's not quite Godzilla; King Kong with muscle strain and anger-management courses at absolute most.

Well, Will shouldn't be crushing buildings.

He also wasn't. He also had no intention of crushing buildings.

I'm not liking GWG's point of view here, while IC it would be indeed pointless to build any sort of walls or defences, we are out in open plains, by a a river, near the sea. After some time we're gonna get
ridiculous warpainted men on horses, screaming spears at us
even more hilarious blonde horn helmet raiders from the sea
optionally just boring old bandits from the forest or upstream
So it would only make sense to not completely focus on defences, but start leaning towards warfare, physical training, militia etc... surely with a population of 800 there are some crimes to be taken care of and laws to be enforced.

Well, some of us don't want to metagame...
Oh, and let me rephrase the only IC argument you have:
"We have a few ruffians. Therefore, we must start leaning towards warfare, physical training, militia etc, unlike literally every society of this kind!" Hell, we don't even have a formalized government!

I say no defenses yet. Instead, make fishing boats large enough to send up and down the coast.

+1

"Why you all sads? Wiwl no hurts you!" Meme is confused.

<No hurt tiny peoples! You scarwy to dem! You want talk, go be smally!> Meme sounds very grown-up.

<I'm a bit worried about what their weapons would do to me if I was on their scale, Meme. And given how...unkind Hainawule was to me, and how abusive to "big people," I can only imagine what the more extreme members of her society would be like...>
<Besides, they probably still wouldn't listen!>

"It is Maria and Aryas concern, not yours. Since when are you her official proxy to talk in their stead?. And threathening to crush our homestead just because they weren't paying attention to you, do you have any idea how out of proportion your reaction is? If that is how you adress us *peacefully*, then by god, you are crazy. That's a *house*, people *live* in there. All their belongings are inside it. Do you have some sort of god complex that you would destroy an entire families lifelihood just to get some attention? Even the layar had better reasons for their actions than you."

((Again: I SPECIFIED HE WAS THREATENING THE LEAST IMPORTANT BUILDING. DO YOU KNOW WHAT LEAST MEANS?!? IT DOES NOT MEAN MOST!))
"I was addressing you peacefully. That failed. I took what means I had to get your attention. What would you suggest doing? Anyways, if you were listening, you would have discovered that I had every intent of not harming a hair on any of your swollen little heads. And how would I ruin their livelihood? I'd offer my help in rebuilding it, and you managed to build the house in a matter of minutes! Not to mention that I A, would have done my best to avoid damaging anything important--and my best is quite good--and B, I had no intention of actually carrying through with the implicit threat. I was only trying to get the attention of people who you, in your spite, specifically told to ignore me."

"And while I am not their proxy, you must be made aware of the courtesies you are ignoring, and no one else seems willing to stand up to your tiny tyranny. Seriously, have you given two seconds of thought as to what your settling here does to Arya and her family?"

Conny comes out and looks at Will.

"You sir, need to come over here and have a talk with me."

"Once Hai's done complaining about my threatening to crush a building."