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if the power can't be turned off, then maybe a bit of focus and mana is what's needed to actually filter the useful information from the useless ones? He could be permanently drowned in so much information and conclusions that filtering out just one would be difficult

1. His power helps him sort through large amounts of information and find the relevant bits already.
2. If you just need to focus, that's not much restriction, is it?
3. I prefer the idea that use of the power causes headaches. Keeps Will closer to his roots.

which reminds me, is that game dead?

Which game?

Spoiler: USEC_OFFICER's silly thought about what Hainuwele was doing before Kyle showed up. (click to show/hide)

Hainuwele: "Oh, Asuka-Chan, are you sure you don't want any more custard? It is ever so de-"

*Kyle walks in*

Hainuwele/Kyle: ...

Hainuwele: "Get out."

Feel free to ignore and continue with your debate. I just wanted to share this thing for some reason.

I much approve of Hai playing with dolls.

"I said I was sorry for almost eating you. I swaer if I ever do it a gain I'll eat the other end."

You charmer.

((I will not describe a thing. Everything that comes to mind is just your own mind filling the chaos, which is more of a reflection upon your own mind. With that in mind, it's whatever you think it is, not that I know what you think))

What does it say about my mind if I can't think of much of anything worse than the underwear? Certainly nothing she would have more than one of.

His touch phobia could come from all the horrible things he has seen when he turns his powers on, rather than seeing them all the time

The cause has been quite clearly noted, as has his inability to turn off his power. This latter has also been shown in internal conversations with himself, where he gripes about his power pointing out the obvious.

Convenient uses: cooking, torches, flaming arrows, etc.

Best one being setting Hai's needle on fire to burn things. Or sterilise objects.

How often does cooking come up?
Torches are similar, with the additional caveat that others *cough*Conny*cough* would be much better-suited for dealing with that problem.
Flaming arrows require a bow, and are just a different way to burn things. Especially since burning arrows suck at normal arrow stuff.
How do you set a needle on fire?
Why would we ever need to sterilize something?

Did Kyle actually manage to shut Will up by talking about forming hard lasers?

He's learning to pick his battles. Also, Kyle was running off.

Quote from: Akroma on January 22, 2014, 12:53:18 pm

considering nuriels tendencies, I figure the chance of the pan melting may be higher than the food being done properly

I wasn't saying that she could do that, I was saying that he doesn't get to complain about Nuriel not being as versatile when the whole reason for it is that he decided that she didn't have very good control of her flames.

Less "can't control," more "doesn't bother to control".
And yes, there are some niche uses of Nuriel's power, but they almost never come up. And in the case of cooking, I'd be less worried about the fire than the...anything else. Demons don't have to eat, so Nuriel never learned to cook.

it's versatile enough, you wouldn't believe what being basicaly a sentinent inferno can do to your diplomacy rolls, if used right

anyone here can do gunboat diplomacy.

Those are the largest ones, yes. Along with how absurd the game is overall.

((How has she read his mind here? Waiting until jack makes the next move is what *she* is doing, wether will is going to do the same, well, good for him))

<If you agree that her body count is way too big for her to just sleep soundly on the couch...>

The only indication that this might be the case is my note that Will was planning to sleep lightly and with his bracelet on.

((Yes, curse you permanent guests and fridge raiders))

Yeah, that's getting silly by now. Two admitted serial killers have entered in the past half-week, we might need to revamp this thing.

Quote from: IamanElfCollaborator on January 22, 2014, 12:06:36 pm

Oohhhh damn.

She finds....a cave. Specifically, one marked with the seal of Thoth. Set looks pissed.
".. Bastard broke into my armoury!"

((... He actually marked the cave with... Nevermind.))

If he's in the cave and can tell it's marked, the markings are inside. Which makes sense.

"So on a scale of one to demon how nutty is Ra now?"

Says the demon.

that's...not so much of an exchange, is it?

if my power was apple, and I exchanged that for an apple AND a bananna, I'd more call it *expanded*

Only if the apple was the same size as the original. Kj's complaints about the air powers pretty clearly indicate they aren't.

but why?

*throws up hands*
Because Persona.
It makes as much sense as shooting yourself in the head with a fake gun to summon mythological figures.

Quote from: Akroma on January 22, 2014, 11:51:56 am

not the occasion to which the resistance applies, I mean where and how he got it
I mean, he didn't start with it, or did he?

He got it upon level up, after acquiring a Persona. I roll every time Richard, Yuri or Kyle level up to see if they get a new move.

...They're going to be getting more abilities? While everyone else only gets stats? Geez.


One thing that occurred to me about Will's power: Tattletale had problems with headaches when she overused her powers. Perhaps the MP represents how close he is to that?
The problem is that Will is stated to have even less ability to turn off his power than Tattletale; he would logically be leaking MP all the time. Remember how part of his touch-phobia has to do with his powers informing him how filthy and germy everything is? This change quite easily has the possibility to make him worse than useless if done wrong.
Another possibility is much like what wildbow did with Worm to keep Tattletale from being OP: Don't give her access to all the information. Him, if we're applying this to Will. This requires a little more ingenuity with developing the plots, though--having the object of the plot just walk up to the door and start chatting with Will and the others wouldn't work.

So your problem is that my character who's skill in being a negotiator is being a negotiator? The rolls rule and they e gone my way especially in the recruitment phase.
Player even commented on how lucky I'd been.
I didn't expect the +1 to law enforcement at all I gave him injuries to fit his back story of going into lots of fights. I made him a bit paranoid to fit his families death because a cop sold him out. The +1 wasn't my idea I didn't even know it existed until he told me once we started.

Which part of this makes your character come off as less of a Mary Sue? The only change is who is supposedly to blame.

I have no problems with you going after the root of the problem.

Your character sure seems to be implying otherwise, with how he keeps saying that the only way we can stop crime is to kill it all.

I can train some negotiators for you if you want to help you with it and do the same for the others if they want to be free of me so they can do negotiating for themselves.my e Bern pretty free with all my skills and resources.

1. Negotiators aren't what I need. Lobbyists, maybe.
2. Remember what I said earlier about everyone being reliant on you, and how that's bad for balance and whatnot?

has confessed to being jack the ripper and that she spent the last 100 years murdering her way through the world. she is plenty guilty. hainuwele simply lacks proof that she can't be trusted, while jack lacks proof that she can be trusted.

Isn't the subject at heart if she should be trusted or not?
And if we're going to put Jack on trial, we're going to put Hainawule on trial. You can't have double standards just because one was supposedly in self-defense. After all...
1. Hai's problem was easily solved with simple signage, and she killed innocents.
2. Jack's been killing criminals for over a century, and she has to do it to survive.

as for elf not working out with you how the stuff works, well, it might be for the best to get that discussion going then. GMs and players alike benefit from knowing the limitations of an ability beforehand. eventually, there will be a misunderstanding at a crucial juncture. it makes the GMs job significantly easier if the game is not disrupted mid-play by long discussions

Yeah.

I am not argueing, for the plot I have in mind, I really have to know where Wills limits are, beforehand. I don't wanna have to arbitrarily somehow keep Will away from it, should he express interest, nor do I want discussions with GWG when he does what he thinks should be no problem, while I think that this shouldn't be possible. It's in a GMs duty to try and spot disruptions like this *before* they become relevant.

Yes, because that's all you were arguing abour.

what's kyle power anyway?

I only got that he is super sturdy

Way back when, it was air magic. He's exchanged that for a persona with air and healing powers.

of course Hainuwele has no proof - neither has Jack.

Isn't it innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around?

anyway, I would not rely too much on Will's power of figuring things out making him always aware of anything at all times.

because frankly, if it is a constantly active passive that requires neither roll nor mana, it's more overpowered than anima, that would burst any plot that is not focused on fighting.

You know, Elf and I never really worked out how it worked for the most part. A few specific examples, sure, but not in general. Guess that's what happens when you import a character wholesale from one RP to another.

:3
Akroma? No comment.
Gold? Nope, truth. immortal serial killer or not, get shot enough and you're gonna pass out. She didn't know what exactly would happen until she was tied up in a room with her knives taken.
kufufufu.

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