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YOU SACRIFICE THE DOG TO THE GODS OF BUSINESS!What? We were supposed to sacrifice the dog to Hecate, give our kid magic!
Asuna pesters a 'good hunting' out of Corebus and continues to hunt with all the efficiency of a Jaegermonster!((Dat's a bit reckless, don' hyu tink, sveethot?))
Kill one and the others stop their fighting and mob you.I don't think they would all automatically swarm the guy with a gun and a big vehicle.
"I know. But...hang on a bloody second."They went voluntarily, as far as I can tell. Definitely, the bracelet was removed voluntarily."
A sphinx....good point, but a sphinx doesn't send as terrible a message. It stands there, gives riddles, kills you if you don't. Avoid it and live.
Whoever wanted Anima wanted her to know quickly...or a distraction."
"So then, we should focus on finding a way to make it speak.""Mind collar?"
Will that realises that there was no trace of summoning magic. Anima didn't summon Sobek.((How's Will detecting this stuff, anyways?))
"Nope. He's just a little cutie."Kyle has a different definition of "cute" than I.
...Before I respond, what do you mean, "refute your character OOC"?SnipWell, GWG, if I-Snipquestioned everything your character did while I was awaySnipin detail, in a way that generally construes them as unintelligentSnipand otherwise gave a point-by-point complaint list,Snipit might feel a lot like I'm trying to refute your character OOC.
]I don't get why you would think that.
Almost all of your retcons seem to focus on Kyle's actions and why their stupid.
as far as action justification goes, just replace the mantikors in the school with tigersThe problem is, we didn't have any tranquilizer darts, only one guy crazy enough to feed a tiger and expect to tame it. So the analogy breaks down.
now imagine someone walking in with a flamethrower and burning them to death, instead of just trying to block some doors and lead the children out safely until backup has arrived to detain the tigers safely. nobody would have even for a second considered blasting the tigers to smitherens with super powers would be a better option than tranquilizzer darts.
if that viewpoint is so hard to understand, then you really have a problem of shifting your point of view.
why would a manticore be more deserving of death than a tiger, and why would kyle saving one of them be a heinous deed?It isn't...but Kyle claiming that us killing the manticores is heinous is rather unkind.
I mean sure, one of them attacked you, and killing that one was very much justified in that situation, but when we set out to find the other ones with the single goal to kill them, we were all being sort of psychopaths, and Kyle was the only one who did the right thingLet's bring up the fact that they were killing kids, and that Kyle only succeeded because he rolled insanely well. Now consider: If Kyle rolled less than he did, maybe an 80, and hence failed to tame the manticore, do you think we would be having this discussion?
as far as "good debate" goes, I have PMd Elf about you more than once, and he said he talked to you about it. Now there is KJ. You might not notice it, because as you have shown, viewpoints are not your forte, but I strongly urge you that when people ask you to stop your condescending tone or they will quit the game, that maybe what you perceive as a debate is strongly insulting to others. we do not WANT to debate with you. it has been made clear that what you are doing is making it hard for us to enjoy the game. so please, please consider what constitutes as a good debate, and what constitutes as you just calling people wrong and stupid for being wrongI'm not good at tones, IRL or in text, and I swear I haven't been trying. And failing to explain why I'm being condescending isn't helping the problem.
this is not a thread about being right or wrong. its just this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQl5aYhkF3ERegardless if the thread is about right and wrong, questions of the same can come up, and they have. And if you want them to stop coming up, stop bringing them up--that's a good first step.
Basically you're too blunt.Yeah.
I think; I forget the exact word.
As much as I hate to, I have to side with Akroma and Twi here. While I myself am an aggressive debater, I can see why others may find it distressing that the justification behind the actions of other characters is sought OOC, not IC, in a fairly blunt manner."Hey, Kyle, I know you hate me but would you mind explaining why you think it's horrible of the guys at the school to have killed those manticores instead of trying their luck at taming one."
It is harder to justify the actions of someone you do not necessarily agree with...Look, I'm not asking for justification, I'm asking for no justification. All I have ever asked for is explanation, and not even very often.
I'm probably going to focus slightly less on this game than on fanfic, GMing Bay 12 Rumble and playing E:G.Not a criticism, but...well, how would you focus less on this game? It's GM'd by players 90% of the time already anyways.
Unusual.Will bends over to examine it for any clues he or his power can pick up.He determines several things.
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One, Maria took off the bracelet here, voluntarily. Two, immensely powerful, near godly teleportation magic was used.
Three, the manticore died by drowning, and is drenched in river water. Four, there are several deep slashes in it's side.
"Sooo...does this group have any...greek or...israeli enemies?""Every magiphobe fundie in Israel or Greece?"
"Good point, but we'll have to placate Kyle first.""Threetwoone not it."
"Papyrus? And it smells like river water...""Chances of Sobek rise to around eighty, ninety percent."
"Hmm...the nile..the nile...the nile is just too long to search. How could we narrow it down? I mean, we can't just follow the niles banks until Fluffy starts...I dunno...wag it's tail?""Anima is capable of summoning Sobek, there is no reason to assume they went to anywhere in Egypt."
"If he broke free of the binding, he might decide to take revenge. I doubt someone with the pride of a god would enjoy being bound to something lesser than them.""The manticore died from drowning by river water. That points clearly to Sobek. Why would he kill the manticore if he wanted revenge on Maria? And why would she have willingly removed her bracelet if this was the case?"
Also..what if that attack...wasn't an attack?""Then someone needs their manticore license revoked."
"Hang on. The manticores didn't put up a fight...maybe because they weren't MEANT to."In that case, I really don't want to get a birthday card from this guy."
They were probably a message. Or a warning of some sort."
[To: Sen, Nuriel] <I need to contact Hell. Now.><Kinda exiled. Forever.>
"This speculation is leading us nowhere. What we need is a way to make contact with gods. And if need be, deal with them.""Anyone got a convenient altar or something?"
That doesn't do anything to me, though.He could Mute you.Already dead, you can't do anything to me.Continue trying to chat-distract mastahcheese.Bad mouth this fool's orifices.
Who the hell is Anima anyway?Maria is the character Elf played in the original RotMG and continues to do so here. Selina's primary love interest, person whose house everyone's crashing in.
Or Maria for that matter? Never seen either.
Also, GWG, I already told you. Your actions tend to make KJ feel like he has to justify himself to you. I don't blame him. When I get your big retcon/summary posts at me I feel the same way. Every time. Whether you intend it or not, that's the effect it has.I don't get why. Any insights?
Let's go out on a limb and assume that Will, Ghost and Hai probably follow the trail? Or at least prepare to do so?They're sure trying to!
Already dead, you can't do anything to me.Continue trying to chat-distract mastahcheese.Bad mouth this fool's orifices.
at GWG, because excuse me Elf, this is important: You should not get so moraly worked up at a game. We are talking about a fictional game with fictional manticores eating fictional children. Getting angry about it IC, sure thing. Getting angry about it OOC - you should take a break from the game, take a breather, have a tea and maybe watch some cat videos on youtube, and then return to the game when you are not angry anymore. One must NOT continue playing the game when you are genuinely angry. Nobody is benefiting from that. It's not fun for you when you get angry at the game, and not fun for KJ when you get angry at him over it. Unless you are enjoying all these arguements so much, in that case, I'd ask Elf to consider the implications.Again, it's not the character's I'm annoyed at. It's the people trying to justify their characters actions. And I do enjoy a good debate...not that it's easy to keep them on the "debate" side around here for some reason.
No children died. it's fiction. why would anyone get angry at that?
and no, of COURSE it's not the easiest thing in the world to save children from manticores. I am not sure what kinda difficulty level Elf has been running here, but difficulty is a good thing, else there is no sense of achievement. Those were half a dozen mythological beasts, and they were utterly destroyed, the threat level was 0. It was a genuinely boring encounter (no offense elf, probably not your fault. I gather you picked this game up from someone else...that someone should have kept everyone's powerlevel at check while he still could. as the characters are now, it's pretty hard to really create a situatio that is difficult to handle)Yeah, this started out as scapheap's game. It was an alien invasion, so threats were pretty major.
Sen is...quite bored and not paying attention to Mind talk.Those two factors do not combine. Does not compute.
Hm. I'll see how everything goes. To be honest, the arguments aren't fun to scroll through, if at all.Pepperoni is pretty good, yeah. A bit...dull though. I mean, most of the time there's pizza at public events, there's pepperoni, sausage, cheese. Hence, I tend to prefer things like spinach alfredo and the like that aren't as common. And, ideally, that are slightly healthier.
Also, I'm a pepperoni fanboy. Sue me.
Why don't you chill off with a new round of the Shipping Poll? :3I'm sick of shipping. Elf should start a game that is all shipping, just to get it all out of his system.
