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While ordinarily most people would feel that hurting priests is probably a good way to get cursed, it would appear that in this case the universe has given you free reign.

1. As a shaman(-in-training), I receive many of the same cursey types of privileges as priests.
2. The universe has had to deal with Lyu, it understands.

Pitch-black flames roar into being atop the walls, tongues of fire reaching for the heavens themselves. An oblivious hawk soars too close to the fire wall and is reduced to ash in an instant; it would seem that entry or exit is no longer possible.

Um...break the gates? We have two mages.

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Lyu feels oddly vindicated by his investigation - he has both a new dagger and a black sapphire now, and he also has a clue about what might have done this! Success!
Quickly locate my good friends. Relay information!
"Hey, friends! I've discovered that these people were obviously killed by somebody who enjoys killing things, rather than some manner of beast like the ones in the forest. Also, said killer also seems to have been a person. So, watch out for suspicious murderers. I also found some good stuff on the corpses. Well, that and some maggots."
"Finally, is anybody else feeling very unsafe all of a sudden?"

Ekoka stares at Lyu, with a mixture of irrutation and disgust on his face.
"Empty your pockets of maggots. And yes, things are VERY unsafe! It's obvious!"

Head towards where Felice indicated the survivors are. Manipulate my rocky hand into a fist.

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on January 11, 2014, 07:48:27 pm

((Like I said, Star Wars is one of the precursors of modern sci-fi. And by your logic, Einsteinian Roulette is even more firmly in the category of fantasy than Star Wars, because it calls its magic magic and never really tries to explain it.))

((Actually, that is something that occurred to me. It's got magic (space magic and STEPHEN HAWKING'S shamanic rituals), evil spirits, prophetic hallucinations, it's even got its own version of cessation of progress. Though I do believe the name of space magic is something that came from the players and piecewise just rolled with it. I don't think anybody in the actual setting who isn't a PC calls it that. And it's not that it doesn't try to explain it, it merely makes it very difficult to find out anything about it. So, without knowing the underlying knowledge of the matter, it's hard to gauge how fantastic ER actually is.))

((So, wait. You're saying that if there could be an explanation for the "magic," we can't call it fantasy?))

Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on January 11, 2014, 07:48:27 pm

(("Folklore and mythology" are more the ancestors of fantasy than "inspiration"; there isn't a strong divide. On the other hand, there is as strong divide between, say, Westerns or samurai movies and science fiction.))

((Doesn't fantasy also draw from samurai movies and westerns (well, at least certain subgenres of it)? There's stuff like urban fantasy, which takes stuff from the same contemporary narratives as science fiction, and low fantasy, which has elements of various realistic period pieces, and more. Even if we discount folklore and mythology (between which and fantasy there is indeed a strong divide, if only because of folklore and mythology being a mutable, variable invention of the people (the latter created to facilitate understanding of life, no less), while fantasy is a mostly immutable invention of what is usually a single person), fantasy has a whole lot of inspirations. Probably as many or more than science fiction, I would say.

((Urban fantasy is a seperate thing, drawing from fantasy (and sometimes superhero fiction) and putting it into a modern setting. And I'm unaware of any fantasy drawing from westerns and samurai stuff, whereas it should be pretty obvious that a lot of sci-fi has the Old West as a metaphor (if they're not going for the Age of Sail), tropes and all, and Star Wars is directly influenced by said samurai stuff. Can you think of any examples of major works of fantasy being inspired by samurai films or westerns? You keep making these claims, but never back them up.))

And like piecewise said, you can't draw an absolute line between science fiction and fantasy. It's more of a gradient, really, in the middle of which science fiction is fantasy in a different dress and vice versa.))

((Factoring in your original point, that's like saying that since there isn't a clear divide between human and ape, there is no difference between the two. Yes, there are australopithecines and such, but barring the occasional insult no one has any real difference telling the difference between an average human and an average ape.))

I'm sorry! I think I've got enough background for the one turn, so if I can get time for the turn without being distracted by Cracked, TV Tropes, or real life...

((What happens if the Sheriff and three others are left alive, but no one wants to shoot the others?))

"Don't talk!"

Krom nods, hoping he managed to avert conflict. He exits the area.

Only problem is that it's Drakuldus

1. Different Drak than A World Asunder.
2. Hey!