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DF General Discussion / Re: What Would Urist Do?
« on: December 18, 2011, 08:39:31 am »
Quote from: grimman007 on December 17, 2011, 10:45:27 pm
He'd just see "PULL THIS LEVER", assume it's from the overseer, and doom us all to being a feast.

WWUD if he wanted to be the very best?
Get mauled by a badger while trying to train it.

WWUD if he was selected to participate in ghost !!science!!?

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: Monarch with no 'soul'
« on: December 16, 2011, 05:03:54 am »
Maybe Runesmith, but it can't change everything.

The root cause is some sort of bug with historical figures not having any preferences. You can still make her angry by denying her proper accommodations.

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DF Dwarf Mode Discussion / Re: What's going on in your fort?
« on: December 16, 2011, 02:49:54 am »
Quote from: Urist Da Vinci on December 16, 2011, 01:24:12 am
Quote from: Kepplerr on December 15, 2011, 05:21:18 pm
Quote from: Kepplerr on December 15, 2011, 04:15:45 pm
After having all of their skin and fat rot away and casts and splints applied to every part of their body, my militia dwarves are back on their feet and ready to fight again!

Looks like I spoke too soon...

...
This happened a little while after they got released from the hospital. They're both lying in their bedrooms, unable to move, with their shields and weapons at their feet.

Completely Numb - At least they aren't in any pain.


On a different topic, in my fort, the only unhappy dwarf is a baby, because it "has gone without a drink for far, far too long".
Holy crap. GET THIS KID A BEER!

Are you sure it's a baby and not a child? Because I'm pretty sure babies don't drink alcohol from a keg*.

*Keg as in a barrel or a pot, not as in mama's fun bags.

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DF Gameplay Questions / Re: Enemies dodging through solid walls?
« on: December 16, 2011, 01:08:08 am »
Oh. Carry on, then. Herpaderp.

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DF Gameplay Questions / Re: Enemies dodging through solid walls?
« on: December 16, 2011, 12:47:50 am »
They dodge each weapon individually, but that all strike at the same time. You can effectively move up to 10 squares instantly (maybe 30 if it's discs or spiked balls), but none of those would make the dwarf go through something it normally would not. Placing the traps 10 squares apart means the dwarf could land anywhere in between, and then there's the chance the dwarf could slam into a wall instead of going to an empty space.

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DF General Discussion / Re: What Would Urist Do?
« on: December 15, 2011, 09:17:35 pm »
Quote from: GreatWyrmGold on December 15, 2011, 08:49:04 pm
Nothing. That situation is impossible on multiple levels. For instance, dwarves always have extra socks, and wherever they are can be home if they expend a little effort making it, eat there, or even walk over there from far enough away.

What would Urist do if he was run over by a reindeer?
Urist punches reindeer in the head, caving in the skull and tearing the brain. Reindeer has been struck down.
Urist has been ecstatic lately. He has enjoyed a fine Reindeer Venison Roast recently.
Urist has succumbed to infection.




WWUD if he converted to Druidism?

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DF General Discussion / Re: What Would Urist Do?
« on: December 14, 2011, 08:24:04 pm »
Quote from: Loud Whispers on December 14, 2011, 02:26:52 pm
Quote from: Pawel1997PL on December 14, 2011, 08:39:07 am
Coal, or lead toys.

WWUD if it was goblin christmas?

Urist has a special gift for you!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

WWUD if booze stopped existing?
Fail to get out of the magma tunnel in time.

WWUD if he could see through the !!matrix!!?

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General Discussion / Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« on: December 13, 2011, 06:46:31 pm »
I was proposing an avenue to a solution for the "machines taking over for people's jobs" problem. I warned that the rabbit hole would go deep, but someone jumped into it anyways, so I had to oblige with an answer. The wizard hypothetical is completely out of my hands, though.

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General Discussion / Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« on: December 13, 2011, 06:41:06 am »
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1. INFLATION!!!Just jacking up wages to even out income distribution will do little or nothing by itself. If more people have more money, than the retailers will just jack up the prices because they can. As for the increase of wages as the company does better, how about if it does worse? Do you honestly think people are just going to accept a pay cut because the company isn't doing well? I'm not saying it doesn't work in theory, just that people would never go for it.



2. And you intend to trust that socialist utopia to who? The government? The same government that people failed to keep in check the first time? The people who mostly just don't give a shit until it's too late, and probably never will? The people who, while individually are fairly intelligent, turn into mindless drones when introduced to the group mentality?



3. Just a suggestion, not that it couldn't go even farther. I don't claim to know the actual number of people doing this. I just don't think they should have any loans forgiven because they were too stupid to understand their contract, or just thought the gravy train would never end and took a stupid risk. If you take a gamble and lose, don't bitch and try to weasel your way out of it. If you aren't 100% sure you understand the agreement, then smarter people are going to take advantage of you. This is a fact of life that will never, EVER go away. Don't enter an agreement you can't understand. And to all the people that said to themselves "If this doesn't work, I'll just appeal to the government to bail me out of my debt", you are the worst type of people I can imagine. So, what's your solution? To give the government more power? I think they have more than enough power to abuse.



4. I'm saying we need to figure out some way to augment ourselves. Allowing our machines to evolve at lightning fast pace while we just plod along like a snail will see us become completely irrelevant next to them. Can you say "robot overlords"? How about if they don't just take over. What if they are subservient to us, still, but obviously much smarter and stronger? We are basically just babies, forever. I don't like that. I want the human species to matter.

Melding with the machines devalues what we are so much it's barely any better. Even then, we would eventually need to give up all of our biological components because they still can't keep up.

Joining into one Borg-like hivemind strips us of all individuality, which I absolutely detest.

Genetic engineering is an option, and better than the previous solutions (according to my ethical code, anyways), but fundamentally changes what we are. If we intentionally manipulate our genetic code, how can we even consider ourselves human anymore?

What I suggest is to use chemicals or techniques that utilize the DNA we already have. Not as autonomous as changing the DNA itself, but we are fundamentally unchanged.

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General Discussion / Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« on: December 13, 2011, 02:29:47 am »
Quote from: alway on December 13, 2011, 02:21:28 am
Quote from: Lagslayer on December 13, 2011, 01:26:39 am
In theory, all the menial labor could be channeled elsewhere, where machines can't do the job efficiently. I don't think we have anyone we can trust to organize that, though. Not sure how to solve this except just having everything done manually, but that's inefficient as hell.

Scratch that, we need to augment the human brain (preferably by growing it instead of joining into some super bio-mechanical hivemind) so people can keep ahead of the machines. Augmenting the body tissue would be good as well, but takes a back seat to maintaining intellectual dominance over our machines. But this would lead to some huge barely related discussion if we get into it much further.
The first fails to solve the problem; it merely gives the poor masses something to do as they become increasingly poor due to wages competing with the rapid drop in automation costs.

The second... Well, I think the entire genre of 'cyberpunk' pretty well covers that. It essentially comes down to augmentation being hella expensive, thus widening the gap between rich and poor even further. There becomes a systemic change in which the poor are poor not because of soft boundaries like less adequate educational opportunities and poor living conditions but because of the hard boundaries of their parents being unable to afford the expensive augmentations used by the rich; which can not be overcome by any genetics, will, or other learned or genetic traits. Think of the difference today between a brand new $5000 pc and an 8 year old pc which cost $300 at the time of purchase, then consider the comparative usefulness to employers of people augmented with a similar disparity in access to technology.
I know it doesn't  solve the underlying problem. That was the point I was intending to convey. Sorry if I wasn't clear :(.

As for the augmentation, I was thinking something along the lines of brain growth chemicals, hopefully that can be made cheaply and be distributed en masse. Like one of those shots you get and don't think twice about it. Of course, to do something like this, with current laws, it would take many decades even under ideal circumstances to get approved. There would need to be a way to speed up the process if we hope to keep up with our machines. This is very touchy, but it's the only way I can see.

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DF Gameplay Questions / Re: Enemies dodging through solid walls?
« on: December 13, 2011, 02:03:05 am »
I typically use a danger room with a single 1x1 repeating traing spear trap with 10 spears. Multiple dodges would make the dwarves end up quite a ways down the hallway outside, but they never went through the walls themselves.

No teleporter for you  :'(.

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DF Gameplay Questions / Re: The DF2010 Little Questions Thread
« on: December 13, 2011, 02:01:18 am »
Stairs can be built on top of eachother, so they are more space efficient.

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General Discussion / Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« on: December 13, 2011, 01:26:39 am »
I'm trying to avoid huge quote pyramids, so bare with me.

@ Truean

Because we really need all these houses, right? Because if we don't keep subsidizing all these housing projects, we might not have enough houses, right? Because someone making 20k a year should be able to buy a 250k house whenever they want, right? Because houses aren't meant to last, right? Because any building that's 20 years old needs to be torn down and rebuilt, right? Because every single person in America should live in a suburban neighborhood with a 250k house on 2 acres of land, right? Yeah, not realistic.

The job market needs restructuring, I'm not going to argue that point. We can only use so much infrastructure, and such jobs should be in lower demand, but it has been artificially inflated. Making "stuff" and gathering resources should be where the jobs are concentrated, but it's not. Labor laws hamper the first group and labor/environmental laws hamper the second. People would have more reliable jobs and prices for the "stuff" would be lower because of increased supply and not having to ship it from overseas. We have massive, MASSIVE resources of all kinds, but we aren't tapping them.



@Kaijyuu
If everyone has the same amount of money, then they will buy a lot more of the same stuff. If suddenly everyone is making 75k a year, prices for everything are going to soar because they are all in the same income bracket, hence inflation. It doesn't mesh well with a free market economy. I don't trust the government to regulate this any more than the businesses (even less because the government is also more inefficient). In theory, they could be removed from power by the voters, but that hasn't worked either. The latter problem needs to be addressed before the first, and it needs to work reliably over time.




@alway

In theory, all the menial labor could be channeled elsewhere, where machines can't do the job efficiently. I don't think we have anyone we can trust to organize that, though. Not sure how to solve this except just having everything done manually, but that's inefficient as hell.

Scratch that, we need to augment the human brain (preferably by growing it instead of joining into some super bio-mechanical hivemind) so people can keep ahead of the machines. Augmenting the body tissue would be good as well, but takes a back seat to maintaining intellectual dominance over our machines. But this would lead to some huge barely related discussion if we get into it much further.

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General Discussion / Re: Occupying Wallstreet
« on: December 12, 2011, 11:52:40 pm »
@ Kaijyuu

Supply and demand applies to jobs as well. Also, inflation. Raising the minimum wage won't accomplish much because the increased inflation will largely or completely cancel it out. Unless we get some super utopian socialistic society, there are always going to be people just trying to scrape by.

I would reccommend doing something splitting like the rent with more people instead of just trying to pay for it all yourself. It would prevent another housing bubble, which started the whole downward spiral. It's not like the building can't accomodate more people, even if it would be inconvenient. Everyone gets a roof over their heads for a lot less money and it only costs a little space. Split the big bills with someone else who's willing, and just share it. It's like socialism, except everyone involved consents to it.

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DF General Discussion / Re: Weird king
« on: December 12, 2011, 10:22:23 pm »
Obviously, a lack of preferences is why he became monarch in the first place. Anyone else would have inevitably met with an "unfortunate accident".

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