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That's a common misconception. Pumps don't actually need to be magma safe. The side where the magma comes out is counted as a wall, and thus cannot be destroyed by magma. If magma touched the side where a dwarf would stand if it was manually pumped, however, the pump would be destroyed. But, the magma should never touch that tile anyway.

You can also use wooden screws and pipe sections, because the game doesn't simulate magma flowing through the pump - it just teleports it from one level below and behind the pump to the same level and in front of the pump.

True, but I dislike bug exploits like that - they really sunder immersion.

Something I just whipped up in notepad and paint. Graphics are mostly DF standard, so I'll forego a legend.



1: Outside-Floodgates are closed once traders enter depot.

2: Magma-Gate is opened, unleashing burnination and firey death.

3: Upper cistern is unleashed, sealing magma.

4: excess water falls into evaporation spillway.

5: With magma flow cut, floodgate to magma evaporation spillway is opened and delop chamber emptied.

6: Once magma has evaporated and the floodgates at 2 and 5 have been rebuilt and connected, upper water spillway access(3) allows channeling of the obsidial magma-plugs, restoring magma flooding functionality.



Thoughts?

Aye, a designated water source should take priority.

If all else fails, tho, just lock the well room until the cistern is full.

I'd give a lot for the ability to set a "Brew Drink in all available stills, repeated" and "render fat in all available kitchens, repeated" options.

You know you can set brew and render jobs to [R]epeat from a given workshop, right? I can't see it taking more than a minute, unless you have a huge setup.


Personally I brew all crops, designate only a few booze-types for cooking(the rest, of course, being for drinking), along with all meat/etc. from the Kitchen menu, and just let farming, brewing, and cooking run on repeat.

I've never had an enormous surplus, iirc, but my tactics are fairly basic and I don't generally devote more than, say, two farmers, a cook, and a brewer to food production, plus imports - mainly meat.

Be awesome if rivers in terrifying locations naturally ran with blood.

Randomly, maybe. All the time would ruin it, and even now-and-then random would take something away from it - as is, if you see blood in the water now, it's telling you something actually happened in the game.

A programmer telling the game to make the water a different colour in a given environment would be far less special. Atleast with random blood you can pretend that something happened off-map.

Quote from: Wolfius on September 26, 2008, 03:26:10 am

short of dump-emptying and forbidding them in-situ

This should be pretty easy, what's the problem?

Because that doesn't get them out of the crafts stockpile and where I want them, and depends on dwarves not stuffing more stuff into them before they're fully emptied - I could remove the 'pile squares they sit on, but keeping the mooks from appropriating them for another stockpile, or another spot in that same 'pile, would be a bit of a hassle.

It's quite doable, sure, assuming it works(as I said, microing bins has given me past headaches), but it's a pain.


...And I only really thought of the later plan which gets the result I wanted as I was typing the rantish OP, several days after the vexing fact(I don't DF unless I can set aside much of the day, because I tend to binge game regardless of intent).

Perhaps try something like this:

1. Press "k" and then enter over the aritfact bin, this should list all the items in that bin
2. scroll thru and press "d" to dump each item in the bin, not this doesnt effet the bin.
3. Repeat for other bin.
4. Let dwarves run back and forth dumping unwanted items.

...only to watch them stuff them full of new crafts befor they finished emptying them. Something of a bin shortfall, overall, at the moment.

I tried this.

5. Set up artifact stockpile, and besure to forbid arifacts in regular stockpile.

Tried this - AFAICT bin storage settings only affect surplus bins. Bins tagged for active use go where the dwarves want to put them, stockpiles be damned.

Which makes sense when you realise that your bin-using metal bar stockpile has the Finished Goods/Bins setting disabled by default, but makes micro a bit of a pain.



The current plan is just to remove bin-using stockpiles temporarily, and likewise forbid all other bins from the stocks menu. Then dump the contents, which shouldn't replenish as they're no longer in a stockpile, and create artifact-class bin-only stockpile tiles where I want them. Then forbid them, remove the arti-piles, redesignate the bin stockpiles, and reapply my custom settings.

Seems the best solution with the current game system, tho it might be a few days befor I have time to play DF again and try it out..

Why all this discussion?  It's EVIL.  KILL IT.

Money isn't worth it!

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