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Hector:Suppose you are an alignment cop, but there is a chance that you aren't sane. How do you go about determining your sanity?

The best way to do it would be to target a confirmed role, though you would likely have to do it with both town and scum to be sure. An insane cop would give the opposite result, easy enough to test, but a paranoid or naive cop is a bit more difficult to pin down. Random obviously being the more difficult one test out. Kinda buggered if that were the case.

TWS

Hector: Didn't say what, that you'd rather he go after someone else? You didn't, but you certainly didn't seem happy about being questioned either.

I was unhappy about him questioning me. The questions weren't generating content.

Quote from: hector13 on October 20, 2016, 10:03:07 am

TWS
I asked him why he focused on what he saw as a non-sequitur as opposed to you asking questions to only three of the players, TDS asking questions of no-one and throwing a vote back at you for voting him, and FoU asking hypothetical questions. Of all the things that had happened at that point, content was unlikely to be generated by asking someone about their speculation on a post-restriction.

Seems a little weak, don't you think? I mean, this is less than a page into RVS. And if those things you mentioned were as question-worthy as you say they are, why did you yourself only talk about the post restriction?

I found something else to pick up on at the time. I have since pressured FoU regarding those questions, and TDS has posted some of his own. You haven't followed up on your initial questions, why not?

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Also, how does it not matter what I was talking about? I'm going to jump on people for the way they try to generate content irrespective of who they're doing it to. I misinterpreted what was happening, aye, but that doesn't change the fact not much content is going to be generated by asking someone about their speculation another player has an amusing post-restriction, is it?

I wasn't challenging the validity of your argument, I was saying that it's suspicious that you focused so much on critiquing TBF's questions to you. Also, if you care so much about proper content-generation, why haven't you challenged any one else on it?

Demonstrably false. I challenged UXLZ on their "choose three people at random" question, and FoU's hypotheticals.

Anyway, most of the folk who had posted had actually asked questions at that point, most of which had something to do with the game or some facet thereof.

TBF asked me about a throw-away comment, that would not generate content.

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You seem to be in the word-twisting business, though whether that's to draw a reaction from the questionee or something more nefarious... too early to tell.

Are you trying to accuse me without actually starting an argument here or what?

Thinking out loud, and bringing it to the attention of others. Since you brought it up, though, perhaps you'd like to comment. How will twisting someone's words help you find scum?

TDS

hector13: Why do you think I mention a daykill?

Could be like FoU and you're trying to figure out how to best use your abilities.

Maybe you're worried that someone will daykill you instead of the traditional TDS N1 NK.

Maybe you're just trying to look as though you're doing something.

fillipk

All these questions and none for me,
Hector why do you think that is?

Nobody likes you.

Fackin' something-about-the-patriarchy, man.

Quote from: Sergarr on October 19, 2016, 10:15:36 pm

welp I've just realized that I've somehow stayed up for so long in the night that it's morning now

and I'm kind of maybe supposed to go to a conference tomorrow today

oh dear

YAAAAAY SLEEP DEPRIVATION BUDDIES

...I regret nothing. I am going to finish this piece of shit essay if it kills me, y'hear?!

Avis' essay: who you callin' a piece of shit, homes? I got a shiv right here, meng.

Avis' essay brandishes a shiv menacingly.

Seems a bit pointless selecting them at random. What's that meant to do, pressure them? "You selected me at random, you're not generating content by doing that."

FoU, 'cause at least one of those hypotheticals is him asking advice on how best to play his role.

TWS

hector13:

Quote from: hector13 on October 19, 2016, 07:11:49 pm

Of the multitude of posts made so far, why focus on that?

Quote from: hector13 on October 19, 2016, 07:40:24 pm

Why is this an issue, man?

Getting defensive already, hm?

As I've already stated, that discussion was borne from my misinterpretation of what TBF was saying.

He was clarifying the question from FoU, whereas I thought he was revealing there was an assassin after him.

Anyhow, what am I being defensive about?

FoU

hector: Hypothetical scenario: You have a power that gives you total control over the lynch for a day, but only provided you were lynched the day before(the power revives you after that occurs). Would you attempt to actively use this power, and if so, how and why?

The useful part of the power is that I'd have to get lynched the previous day. I'm not entirely sure how I'd go about getting lynched, but assuming it happens, I'd get to examine the cases on the wagon against me because it would be likely to have some aniti-town sentiment on it. I'd do that in the night phase to be prepared for the following day, and then maybe wait a RL day to see what happens (cases continued against me and things like that) before revealing that I control the lynch.

This would allow people to convince me to vote for a particular person - or not, as the case may be - as I'm not a big fan of one person controlling the lynch sans input. I mean if I can't convince others to lynch the person I have a case against, there's something wrong with that case.

You are asking a lot of hypothetical questions. What do you hope to gain from them?

Quote from: hector13 on October 19, 2016, 07:11:49 pm

Was he talking to everyone when answering your question? I highly doubt that, so I hope he has a post restriction.

Of the multitude of posts made so far, why focus on that?

He was, because his original question was to everyone, and I asked about that question.

You did, with a question specifically directed at him, and he responded to you, specifically you. Why does he need to respond to everyone when he's responding specifically to you? 'cause he has a funny post restriction.

Why is this an issue, man?

Everyone: Just you.

Quite.

Quote from: vishdafish on October 19, 2016, 06:17:33 pm

Are you just posting random stuff to increase your post count?

No.

That is my reaction to this.

Can we just claim wincons already and make a bloody flowchart or something?

You can answer the question of how revealing wincons will help us either find scum or finish the round successfully.

You can fake a role easy enough, so you can do the same with a wincon. It proves nothing.