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11221
((can you move this to the OOC thread, crazyabe?))

11223
"I guess you won't make the deadline."

11224
"I will be paying you to fix it. Until such time as I receive the Essence back, I will have paid for your transgression into my Sphere, sans permission. When do you expect that will be?

You have 10E just now, 5 of which is being spent on something else. How much Essence do you think it will take in total to fix your mistake?
"

11225
Yes, I'd say a coordinated effort to provide medical care to Syrian rebel fighters going back as far as 2013 does contribute toward destabilising nearby countries. Not that it's just medical care, of course - they're potentially arming them as well.

Quote from: The linked article
Further reports indicated similar incidents. However, cooperation between the IDF and Syrian rebels that was revealed in UN observer reports does not just include transferring the wounded. Observers remarked in the report distributed on June 10 that they identified IDF soldiers on the Israeli side handing over two boxes to armed Syrian opposition members on the Syrian side.

And I presume you mean BNP, rather than BPP? Otherwise I have no clue what the hell you're talking about.

Hector, I regret forgetting that I'd intended to stop replying to you. You asked when she was whining for another referendum, I answer you, and you switch to whining about my use of the word whining. Whining. Whining. Anyway, let's go back to the previous paradigm.

(But while I'm here, to answer the second half of your post - I'm sorry, but Scotland is a part of the UK. Until you manage to get the result you want on an independence referendum, you have to deal with it and all that it entails. Hell, you don't just have to - you CHOSE to, in 2014. Democratically ;))

Sorry, did you just ignore the rest of the post in which I pointed out that the not-very-significant margin of 52-48 was less than the slightly more significant margin of 62-38? Or that what you said Sturgeon said was not quite what she actually said?

I mean I'm quite happy not to hear you respond to my arguments, since I don't get to see you selectively ignore the parts that are quite pertinent to the parts to which I'm responding.

Anyway, since 2014, the Independence Referendum, then they've chosen to almost completely wipe out British political parties as representatives of the Scottish constituencies in the UK parliament, elect another SNP (admittedly minority, though that could be argued to be a result of the List votes system) and vote overwhelmingly to stay in the EU, but have their democratic will ignored in favour of England, as per.

PPE: a single poll, nice. Does that show Scotland's political will better than actual elections and referendums?

11226
General Discussion / Re: Shit, let's activate my Trump card!
« on: August 11, 2016, 11:38:31 am »
Undifferentiated Androgynous, with a slight lean toward masculine.

Yeah, sounds right. But probably just a coincidence. Gender stereotypes suck, and every sucky clock is right twice a year.

or something

I thought that said sucky cock.

What is wrong with me.

11227
"If you didn't want to draw my ire, you shouldn't have involved yourself in my sphere.

In what way is it reasonable for me to pay for something you did?

In what way do I want to start a fight? I've said I'll fix your mistake if you don't. The ultimatum is so you can fix it in a way you find satisfactory, else I'll fix it in a way I find satisfactory. I didn't say anything about starting a war, Mister Spin.
"

11228
When was she whining for another referendum?

I have no clue what reality you're living in. Sturgeon was constantly whining for another independence referendum. She even flew over to Brussels to beg EU leaders to back her up (and failed pretty miserably from what it seems). Not to mention that nonsense about vetoing it.

So her doing something she said she would do in her manifesto (a point made in the article you linked to) is somehow her whining now? Is Scotland being taken out of the EU against its democratic will not a significant or material change?

I'm also curious why you think it's "whining" when she is quoted as saying this in the article:

Quote from: Nicola Sturgeon
Asked if there were any other options available to the Scottish government, she replied: "I think an independence referendum is now highly likely but I also think it is important that we take time to consider all steps and have the discussions, not least to assess the response of the European Union to the vote that Scotland expressed yesterday."

She said she thinks the referendum is likely, but it's not the only option available. Does that sound like someone who's demanding the Scottish people take up their mattocks and hit the border hard enough that they float away?

Don't seem to think that Scotland being taken out of the EU against its will is a problem. Or is it just because it would go against your own self-interest that you don't give a shit?

I don't care if all (or, like in Scotland, 60% of) the houses on the next street vote Red; if more people in the country overall vote Blue, then Blue wins the election. That street can't turn around and say 'But that's not what we voted for, we don't want to follow the rules now!'.

Well, I mean, they can, but it's bloody stupid.

Scotland voted decisively to stay as a part of the UK, for better or worse. The people of Scotland aren't stupid, so the argument of 'But they didn't think X would happen!' doesn't hold much water with me. For one thing, David Cameron had already promised the EU referendum at the time Scotland had its independence referendum, so they knew what was coming. They chose to stay. One day perhaps there'll be enough demand for them to get a second Independence referendum, but we can't be doing it all the time, or we'd end up with one everytime we have a Tory PM.

Sturgeon isn't a British politician though, she's a Scottish one. Leader of the Scottish parliament. She isn't saying that "the people of Scotland didn't think X would happen", she's saying has a mandate from the Scottish people to stay in the EU. Which I think it's fair to say she does.

Do you expect her to ignore that, when Scotland voted even more decisively to stay in the EU than they did to stay as part of the UK, as well as by a much more significant margin than the proverbial bawhair that the rUK England and Wales voted to leave it?

Or, in other words the joke: "A Scotsman, Englishman and Northern Irishman all go to a bar. They have to leave because the Englishman wanted to go."

11229
"Luck is but a probability turning in one's favor.  Any of us could provide such a blessing, though none of us normally would.  And you have not truly done that for any but your own."

"By your logic, any of us could do anything the other gods can do. Are you saying we are all, as individuals, unnecessary?"

"I haven't provided any blessings of Luck because there was no reason for me to increase my Influence at the time. Would you spend Essence and time on wasteful projects?"

"If your ultimatum has nothing to back it at the time it is delivered, it is surely worthless.

And how would you fix it?"


"Oh now come on, it's more interesting not knowing what I might do, is it not?"

11230
"You have heard of the phrase "Pure Luck" yes? I feel it is tremendously unlikely any of you could provide that for the denizens of the world as well as I.

The deadline has not passed yet. You have yet to see how much worth is contained in my ultimatum. Why should I pay to fix someone else has done? I am given them an opportunity to do it their way, else it will be done my way.
"

11231
"Why should I lend you Essence to fix your own mistake?"

11232
"Because it's my sphere? My entire reason for existing? That I have cultivated for the past 17 Ticks? That you are now tainting with your grubby little fingers?

You know I have issue with this, particularly given
Zenrach's prior interference. I expect your... things to be gone at the half-Tick, by your hand."

11233
"No, I think you get very angry very quickly."
"You are free to change them or erase them if you want, though that would be pitiful."
"Have you got anything else to say?"

"In what way would that be pitiful? You just admitted you can't do Luck as well as I can. You have diluted the Luck in the world with your useless attempts, which is going to affect only me. If I created defective brains around the world, it would only affect you. Would you take issue with that?"

11234
"I am creating small luck spirits because you're not doing it. Create better luck spirits."

As he speaks the white tentacles seem to come out of him more than before

Continues Meditation on the Spirit

"Excuse me? Who appointed you "Chief of Telling-Other-Gods-How-To-Do-Their-Job"?

Do you think you can do my job better than me?
"

11235
Ultimately, it was a fair vote (some dodgy dealing by the government regarding leaflets aside), so starting a trend of rerunning any election if people complain hard enough seems daft to me. If it'd gone the other way, I'd have been disappointed in the result but happy we at least got the chance to vote, and I'd have respected the result rather than pulling a Nicola Sturgeon and whining for yet another referendum I'd likely lose.

When was she whining for another referendum? She was the only political leader (of any consequence) to do as the meme says and keep calm. Cameron resigned, throwing the Tories into chaos, Labour for some inexplicable reason turned down the opportunity to attack their biggest rivals in favour of attacking their own leader. The first thing that Sturgeon said when the results became known was that all EU citizens in Scotland were welcome and not to worry about their future in the country. Not heard that from anyone else in the UK.

She asked a group of experts to examine how Scotland can protect its interests in the EU.

Now, every single Scottish council area voted to Remain. Every. Single. One. I think that means the people of Scotland have given Sturgeon a mandate to do everything she possibly can to get Scotland to remain in the EU, and I'm surprised that you, when you say things like this:

I don't believe in picking and choosing when we follow the principles of democracy.

Don't seem to think that Scotland being taken out of the EU against its will is a problem. Or is it just because it would go against your own self-interest that you don't give a shit?

Edit: I'm also curious if you have a link to the Corbyn interview you cited. My Google-fu fails me :'(

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