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General Discussion / Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« on: August 09, 2016, 07:32:06 pm »
This is why I carefully explained my point, though I also forgot to add that it's a bit redundant having two people argue over a third person's point. It could be an eternal discussion :o

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 16
« on: August 09, 2016, 07:28:59 pm »
Does that tell you anything about me, though? My role in this particular round?

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 16
« on: August 09, 2016, 07:25:42 pm »
I'm an apricot.

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General Discussion / Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« on: August 09, 2016, 07:14:32 pm »
Quote from: Putnam on August 09, 2016, 06:59:12 pm
Quote from: KingofstarrySkies on August 09, 2016, 06:32:04 pm
Speaking of metroid and games alike it, what the fuck ever happened to Castlevania?

Konami.

Oh snap!

Konami used to be good.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 16
« on: August 09, 2016, 07:12:37 pm »
Surprise, surprise Starver. A rubbish question with a rubbish reference :P

That won't help us find scum.

Perhaps we should discuss the game:

TBF - what do you think the atypical day start means for what the Evil role's action is, and what it means for the town's action(s) against the Evil role?

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General Discussion / Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« on: August 09, 2016, 07:09:12 pm »
Quote from: scriver on August 09, 2016, 06:34:58 pm
So wait, first you go with the "I was only saying he claimed 'immigrants are the only ones capable of rape' as a ridiculous statement" excuse for your strawman, and then in the very next sentence you go ahead and claim that the article he posted does in fact claim that "immigrants are the only ones capable of rape" anyway?

Eh? You are making some outlandish inferences, bro. You need to explain that one.

Quote from: scriver on August 09, 2016, 06:34:58 pm
I didn't say that the article said it, I said that it was what Covenant's point, as opposed to "only immigrants rape" or "we shouldn't take immigrants because they will rape people" that you are reducing it to.

But the article was used as support for Covenant's point, which has been my point all along. His point being that we need to protect our womenfolk from the dirty brown people:

Quote from: Covenant on August 09, 2016, 03:32:26 pm
Why should my sisters, daughters, friends and co-workers live in fear of violent sexual assault such as in Germany, like the many, many examples I linked to in my last post?

This is the ridiculous statement to which I'm referring. How do we interpret that?

I'm quite willing to be corrected, but it looks like what Covenant is saying is "immigrants are rapists, look what's going on in Germany, this article will provide supporting evidence", but I've already said the article doesn't say that. A very basic gist of it is "German authorities are letting immigrants get away with sexual violence."

My ridiculous statement of "immigrants confirmed as only beings capable of rape" was irony. I perhaps should've spent an extra few moments typing out "not all immigrants are rapists, not all rapists are immigrants" as well to illustrate that's what I meant, but I didn't. The question "why do we have to protect our womenfolk from immigrant rapists but not native rapists?" may also have helped. Sorry.

Hopefully that has explained what inspired the irony and where I was coming from.

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General Discussion / Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« on: August 09, 2016, 06:13:09 pm »
Quote from: scriver on August 09, 2016, 05:57:02 pm
Quote from: hector13 on August 09, 2016, 05:34:35 pm
Quote from: scriver on August 09, 2016, 05:07:24 pm
No, and that's not what he was saying. That above is a pure strawman.

Is it? He was saying that we shouldn't take immigrants because they'll rape people

That sounds surprisingly different from "Immigrants confirmed as the only beings capable of rape".

Yes, well done. Do you understand the concept of irony? It was a ridiculous statement that I used to highlight his ridiculous statement. Natives are just as capable of raping someone as an immigrant.

Quote from: scriver on August 09, 2016, 05:57:02 pm
Even then, you're still misrepresenting his point even after moving your strawman post. What he said, through the implications of the example of Germany's rape and sexual abuse problems, was that immigrants rape people at a greater amount than natives. Not that immigrants are the only ones capable of rape, or that all immigrants are rapists.

You must point out where the article said that, I must have missed it.

Perhaps you could also provide numbers on the bolded statement, as it relates to the article? Edit: bearing in mind I'll drop the "90% of sex crime go unreported" stat down on whatever you find out about it.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 16
« on: August 09, 2016, 06:03:24 pm »
I don't think Tomasque would do the same schtick two rounds in a row.

Anyway, TBF has been quite quiet recently anyway.

We shouldn't waste the time we do have in waiting for TBF to post anyway.

Moonlit - if you were the investigator this round, who would you target at night and why?

Starver - what do you think of TBF's silence and FoU's constant worries over silencing actions?

FoU - Why are you wasting time worrying about actions and not taking the initiative and scum hunting?

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General Discussion / Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« on: August 09, 2016, 05:34:35 pm »
Quote from: scriver on August 09, 2016, 05:07:24 pm
No, and that's not what he was saying. That above is a pure strawman.

Is it? He was saying that we shouldn't take immigrants because they'll rape people, which is absurd, so I came back with an absurd statement. If we shouldn't accept immigrants because they might rape people, we might as well throw everyone in prison because they might rape someone or murder someone or speak harshly to someone.

The example he gave was also not really a very good one. The article even goes into detail that the German state is essentially suppressing the details of these rapes, they aren't really prosecuting these rapes (it said something about being too lenient, without really giving examples of what that meant) the German media not covering these things, or otherwise lessening the blow (southern skin colour? what?) and then it states that Germany has a) a ridiculously narrow definition of rape (you weren't raped if you didn't fight back!) and b) ridiculously low rates of reporting all sex crimes.

In terms of choosing an example to show that immigrants are dirty raping bastards, you'd be hard-pressed to find a worse one.


Re: integration: it's a two-sided affair. You can't just expect immigrants to go out and find ways to integrate, the place they're trying to assimilate into needs to put some effort into actually helping them out. Some of them might not even speak the language. How well do you think you'd fare if you could barely communicate with anyone?

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General Discussion / Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« on: August 09, 2016, 03:40:58 pm »
Immigrants confirmed as the only beings capable of rape.

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General Discussion / Re: The friendly and polite EU-related terrible jokes thread
« on: August 09, 2016, 10:44:58 am »
Quote from: Covenant on August 09, 2016, 03:04:34 am
Quote from: hector13 on August 09, 2016, 12:50:29 am
The extradition was delayed rather than stopped over concerns that he'd receive similar treatment to the detainees in Guantanamo Bay, life imprisonment without parole, and being held in isolation for extended periods of time. Basically inhumane treatment, a violation of Article 3 (I think) of the European Convention for Human Rights. He was eventually extradited after those concerns were assuaged.

I don't find that treatment inhumane given his crimes and what he espouses. Either way, you seem to have asked a question to which you already knew the answer.

My intent was to find out why you thought the European Court of Human Rights was a ridiculous institution, though my ability to communicate that at 1am was a little bit impaired.

Evidently it's because you think human rights are conditional rather than absolute.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 16
« on: August 09, 2016, 10:26:50 am »
You did have the ability to communicate, it just would've been awkward.

D1 start is awkward though.

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General Discussion / Re: [bunbunbun] UPRPR club hop and flop station (Happy thread)
« on: August 09, 2016, 01:41:41 am »
wots rong wif blak likris m8

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Arachnophobia - Spider (and other stuff) Ranching Game - [0/4]
« on: August 09, 2016, 01:20:51 am »
Spoiler: Wullie Vulpes (click to show/hide)

That was meant to be an addit but oh well, have a DP and accidental double bump instead :P

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Arachnophobia - Spider (and other stuff) Ranching Game - [0/4]
« on: August 09, 2016, 12:59:22 am »
Sheet incoming

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